Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:14 UTC
Senator Wyden (R, Oregon) opened his questions by referring to an Op-Ed written by CIA director nominee Rep. Mike Pompeo (R, Kentucky) where he advocated for a new law to re-establish the collection of all metadata, including collecting data on the finances and lifestyle data on millions of Americans.
"You would be in favor of a new law collecting all of this data about the personal lives of people," Wyden said during Pompeo's nominee hearing on Thursday. "Any boundaries?"
Pompeo said there were legal boundaries, adding the Op-Ed was about "the US's obligation to do all it could in a lawful constitutional manner to collect foreign intelligence important to keeping Americans safe."
Wyden interrupted and said "That's not what you said. You said all metadata."
"When I was talking about the metadata program, I was referring the program that has been changed in fundamental ways by the USA Freedom Act," said Pompeo, which he said he voted for.
Wyden countered that Pompeo wrote the Op-Ed since the passage of the law.
"What kind of information would you not enter into?" asked Wyden.
"As the director of the CIA, you have my assurance we will not engage in unlawful activity," said Pompeo. "But I think this committee, the American people, demand that if there is publicly available information someone has out there on a public available site we have an obligation to use that information to keep Americans safe. If there is someone on a Facebook page talking about an attack or plotting an attack against America, you would find the director of the CIA or an intelligence agency grossly negligent if they didn't purse that information."
The exchange occasionally became tense, with Wyden saying, "Congressman, I don't take a backseat to anyone when it comes to protecting this country."
Wyden said he wrote the section on the Freedom Act that gave the government emergency powers and authority to move when its critical to protect the country.
"You're talking about your interest in setting up a whole new database, metadata collections system that is far more sweeping than anything Congress has been looking at," said Wyden.
Pompeo acknowledged Wyden's commitment to national security but shot back, "I take a backseat to no one in protecting Americans' privacy, either."
Pompeo didn't respond further to the question about the new database.
Wyden asked Pompeo to submit in writing his views on the limitations of metadata collection.
President-elect Trump nominated Pompeo to run the CIA after winning the election in November.
Comment: The intelligence community has much of the world and millions of Americans under surveillance, and we know only the tip of the iceberg of what it's been doing. Reuters published this little gem back in 2015:
Few people, for example, are aware that a NSA program known as TREASUREMAP is being developed to continuously map every Internet connection — cellphones, laptops, tablets — of everyone on the planet, including Americans.The intelligence community can get away with practically anything it wants - like claiming that the incoming president is a secret Russian agent. So... Wyden's outburst about an Op-Ed that Pompeo wrote a year ago is just circus pageantry.
"Map the entire Internet," says the top secret NSA slide. "Any device, anywhere, all the time." It adds that the program will allow "Computer Attack/Exploit Planning" as well as "Network Reconnaissance."
Ominously, as the hearing began, it was interrupted by a power outage:
As the Senate Intelligence Committee's ranking member began his opening remarks regarding the intelligence community's formal assessment that Russia attempted to interfere in the US election, the lights went out.
Senator Mark Warner (D, Virginia) continued his remarks without a microphone on Thursday morning as lawmakers, the nominee candidate Representative Mike Pompeo (R, Kentucky), reporters, and protesters sat in darkness, first reported by The Hill.