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NewsReal: Nuclear Armageddon?! Nah, But Likely Expansion of War Beyond Ukraine

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Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:40 UTC

There are increasing signs that the war in Ukraine may expand beyond that country (and newly-acquired Russian territory): the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines, the terror-bombing of the Kerch-Crimea bridge, the retaliatory Russian airstrikes against Ukrainian energy infrastructure, the ongoing delivery of NATO weapons to Ukraine, the fearmongering over nuclear Armageddon, and now the build-up of Russian forces in Belarus.

With the caveat of course, thanks to US government wordplay in late 2021, that the definition of 'imminent' is more fluid these days, fighting between NATO and Russian forces could soon be taking place in Belarus (and/or possibly from Belarus into 'NATO proper'!).

This week on NewsReal, Joe and Niall lay out an alternative direction to US-Russia escalation that doesn't involve mushroom clouds, but which nonetheless risks bringing on more global socio-economic upheaval...

Running Time: 02:06:35

Download: MP3 — 86.9 MB

*** CORRECTION ***

At 12:30 we discuss the "regional grouping" of Belarusian and Russian forces inside Belarus this week, citing an RT report we erroneously read as saying "one hundred thousand" Russian troops had linked up with 70,000 Belarusian troops. In fact, the report quoted Belarus president Lukashenko as saying that "more than one thousand [1,000] Russian soldiers" would participate.

Since then, Western media, again citing the Belarus government, reports that the Russian military contingent in Belarus will be 9,000-strong.

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Reader Comments

codis · 2022-10-17T12:52:32Z

Nato will not deploy troups in the Ukraine.

Nato neither has the personnel, nor the materialor the industrial base to absorb a real land war against Russia and allies. Their image of unsurpassed military power is thoroughly scratched.

Ignoring the fact here that Nato boots are already on the ground there (as in "thousands of mercenaries", and Nato officers in charge of command, control and reconnaissance for all Ukrainian operations).

After an official entry, the involved troups would be destroyed in two weeks, and they would have to resort to nukes.

Zbigniew · 2022-10-17T13:21:12Z

codis Nato will not deploy troups in the Ukraine.

I agree; they have enough own comedians on the Ukraine. They even have comedian-president there!

danny esq · 2022-10-17T15:07:42Z

codis Nitrate bombs perhaps. Nukes as some name dropping strategy seems more daft by the day.

It's really just a simple question of observing known likelihoods anticipated by specific people doing what they are predisposed to do and have no power to prevent or curb their own natural lists and workings, we knew it didn't really matter once the Internet started we all knew within just a few weeks the likely trajectory, but now watch the impossible, why when they could of, ever having t urned up an offer once presented, they could both save money AND further their world domination cause, ask yourself even, why wait if you REALLY had that firepower. Never stopped the Israelis using white phosphorus as an internationally banned weapon, but they couldn't nuke one single country that they know still stands strongly in their way? I see a HUGE chink in that awkward looking armour. No racial pun intended.

rabtj23 · 2022-10-18T09:37:34Z

codis "destroyed in 2 weeks". Wasn't this the same prediction the Russians made when they invaded Ukraine?

codis · 2022-10-18T09:41:19Z

rabtj23 I remember no such Russian prediction.

Quite the opposite, the Russians always toutet "it takes as long as it takes."

It was always the Western media that assumed the Russians plan a Blitzkrieg like the US / Nato usually does.

danny esq · 2022-10-18T15:24:35Z

rabtj23 Russia needs to pad this consolidation excercise out a little, perhaps Putin has plans for his swan song and legacy need to be cemented into history and they still haven't scrubbed the Internet of his complicity to injure and murder his own countrymen on a medical issue given to him to employ by no non national interests without most people now knowing how to define the word traitor.

Russia is very very valuable agriculturally and Russia and Ukraine are both playing their part in the world stage, the notion that either country is weakened or vulnerable during war, or both sides both knowing they can together enjoy mutual security as both areas and their land are easier to secure under the pretense of aggression or mutually deployed personal on high alert, it would also give valuable information to future special missions on how to comb the area by carefull crisis management and without the independently national language and area barriers covered by world media, we are only a news spread shy of being hoodwinked because nothing offered in news of any format can be verified factually ALL THE TIME EVERYTIME.

nuggatron · 2022-10-17T13:40:49Z

Amerika knows its Air Forces would be eliminated if deployed in an offensive manner. I suspect the Russians can also defend against Missiles look no further than Syria. Russia rendered a US Navy ship dead in the water a few years back showing the Amerikans not to fuck around and find out. [Link]

codis · 2022-10-17T14:11:24Z

nuggatron

I suspect the Russians can also defend against Missiles look no further than Syria.

You could ask all the other S-300 and S-400 users.

The Western military never faced an enemy with a substantial air force or missile force, so there was no need for such a defense system. Patriot, Iron Dome, IRIS-T or whatnot are not up to the Russian missiles, this is not what they are designed for.

Russia rendered a US Navy ship dead in the water a few years back ...

Naval warfare means very little in the Ukraine theatre, even less against Russia.Compare their coast lines to e.g. the UK or US.

But they have very powerful anti-ship missiles, that can easily sink a carrier.

Not to mention, their air force and infantry or neither armed nor trained to work without air superiority.

This would end in a quick disaster - probably triggering some crazy Nato juggernaut to pull the last-resort weapon.

VonCraq · 2022-10-17T18:29:29Z

nuggatron You are WRONG, so WRONG, Top Gun II showed us Amerikan's that even F15's can defeat 6th generation Russian jets. How dare you...

codis · 2022-10-18T05:32:40Z

VonCraq Why something as fancy as a F15 ?

A P-47 Thunderbolt would suffice.

danny esq · 2022-10-18T15:27:15Z

VonCraq Piloted by a chemical warfare expert who gets to keep her cover from being blown.

Shangri · 2022-10-17T19:44:09Z

it undoubtable...that bestial subhumans are still considered relevant.

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Eye on the TV

'Cause tragedy thrills me

Whatever flavor.....

[Link]

rabtj23 · 2022-10-18T09:36:27Z

Shangri Vicarious may i, live while the whole world dies.

Shangri · 2022-10-18T18:03:16Z

rabtj23 "From a good safe distance

Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies"

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without the consciousness to realise, that living life by proxy, is the death of self, the yearning gravitates toward whatever feeds the reaper.

arielwilson · 2022-10-18T09:03:50Z

arielwilson · 2022-10-18T09:05:19Z

Finance thesis writing service Ukraine has a plethora of comedians, in my opinion. There's even a presidential comedian!

[Link]

oldschoolrider · 2022-10-18T10:02:36Z

Some of Us Don’t Think the Russian Invasion Was “Aggression.” Here’s Why.

Important article first published on October 11 2022

“We are not threatening anyone.… We have made it clear that any further NATO movement to the east is unacceptable. There’s nothing unclear about this. We aren’t deploying our missiles to the border of the United States, but the United States IS deploying their missiles to the porch of our house. Are we asking too much? We’re just asking that they not deploy their attack-systems to our home…. What is so hard to understand about that?” Russian President Vladimir Putin,

[Link]

danny esq · 2022-10-18T15:31:25Z

oldschoolrider What counts though? The fact that Russia said it would never begin or start any aggression proving so by the opposite, or the need to steer people's understanding trying to explain such inconvenience in a way that doesn't look like it should of needed it where facts normally left to explain itself by evidence? What is convenient was how Russia left the door open for US involvement, how else could the WEF CREW attempt to bring the US to a standstill?

rakarb · 2022-10-18T19:45:43Z

there are ppl who voluntarily or by out of options are taking stances and there are comfy-seeking ppl/rolling stones; [Link]

rakarb · 2022-10-18T21:39:30Z

there are also ppl who do not buy narratives / goes their own ways. eg; (one in many) [Link]

rakarb · 2022-10-18T22:25:09Z

hmm. sometimes i feel alone in the world [Link] and sometimes i do not [Link]
i do not know how you sotters would like to place yourselves ?

oldschoolrider · 2022-10-19T00:21:27Z

Earth Song

[Link]

rakarb · 2022-10-20T20:54:25Z

oldschoolrider thanks 👍 it was one of my favourites too. it reminds me of more innocent and optimistc times

rakarb · 2022-10-20T22:32:44Z

hmm. i was contemplating wheter or not it would be possible to cut pytonslanges dick off.

i came to it would be much simpler to just blow him up

peter mcloughlin · 2022-10-19T10:14:16Z

The pattern of history is clear: everyone eventually gets the war they are trying to avoid – that includes nuclear war. It involves governments’ inability to control conflict and their willingness to use the ultimate weapon in extreme scenarios. [Link]

danny esq · 2022-10-20T03:35:49Z

peter mcloughlin Nuclear war is a myth, nobody wins, so the empty threat gains public fear, fear governments then make use of. Everything governments do requires us to do it to ourselves yes but nuclear war......Israel if it had REAL nuclear arms would use them daily.

VooDoo6 · 2022-10-20T23:19:29Z

The pattern of history is clear: everyone eventually gets the war they are trying to avoid – that includes nuclear war. It involves governments’ inability to control conflict and their willingness to use the ultimate weapon in extreme scenarios. [Link]

MAD was long ago already determined & war gamed out. It’s the FEAR Porn - FUD dogma. They can & will target whatever areas they want to destroy if it gets to that point. Lots of people survived the WWll end of the world as it were then.

The EL-ite’s always do technology transfers to ensure us mortals don’t get ahead of them figuring it out. They use that advanced technology as a method & means to control us & rule. They already built the DUMBs for that reason. Guess what / You or I never had a seat reserved for us anyways.

It’s all fun & great games until someone gets their eye poked out with a nuke

Bonus material: [Link] or here: [Link] + here: [Link]

parzival · 2022-10-19T15:10:14Z

"A US and a Russian officer explain what they see REALLY happening in Ukraine (as opposed to what we're hearing from the nuts in Washington and "our free press")Study what both these men have to say, and share it far and wide, while it's still legal." by Mark Crispin Miller Oct 19 [Link]

VooDoo6 · 2022-10-19T15:51:21Z

UKRIANE, POLAND & BALTICS to be merged into one Anti-Russian Entity [Link]
“They wish to solve a few problems at once: to weaken, to reduce the level of influence of Europe, to push Europe as far back from Russia as possible. And it would be desirable to create some kind of a unified country between Europe and Russia arbitrarily called “Anti-Russia”. In order to achieve this, Poland, Ukraine, and the Baltic states must be unified.”

Note: Looks to be similar to Parzival’s post above but a different substack source.

VooDoo6 · 2022-10-19T15:57:05Z

VooDoo6 · 2022-10-19T16:13:21Z

Israel’s Secret Biological Warfare During 1948 Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

Poisoning Palestine’s water supply in 1948 – the Zionist genocidal campaign [Link]

danny esq · 2022-10-19T17:12:53Z

VooDoo6 Yup, Neighbourly Jews....

Jewish Supremacists.

VooDoo6 · 2022-10-24T15:33:53Z

VooDoo6 Yup, Neighbourly Jews....

Jewish Supremacists.

The self-anointed satanic chosen ones

parzival · 2022-10-23T12:19:11Z

'Eight reasons why Ukraine will end up like Yugoslavia' by Serborthodox [Link]

katesisco · 2022-10-24T13:32:57Z

[Link]
Why is this happening. At the Al-Hol camp 12 year olds are maturing into desperate adults. 60,000 people half under 12. Half are Iraqi.

From the article:

Solving this problem demands our collective commitment and action. We cannot accept that any durable solution includes these two foreign populations – the displaced and the detained – remaining in northeast Syria. We have but one option: we must work together to safely and securely return to their places of origin the approximately 4-5,000 non-Syrian fighters and the tens of thousands of associated family members residing in displaced persons camps.

This is a repeat of the 'dispossessed' camp for Yemeni in north Kenya.

[Link]
The Dadaab refugee complex has a population of 218,873 registered refugees and asylum seekers as at the end of July 2020. Dadaab refugee complex consists of three camps.

The 10 largest: [Link]
In the past decade, the global refugee population has more than doubled. According to the UNHCR, over 84 million people around the world have been forced to flee their homes. Among them are over 26.6 million refugees, the highest population on record. 68% of the world’s refugees come from just 5 countries.

However, one of the oldest camps is surely Cooper's Camp in West Bengal, India. It dates from the time of partition in 1947 when a large number of Hindus living in mainly Muslim East Bengal (now Bangladesh) fled across the border. Nearly 70 years on, Cooper's Camp is still home to some 7,000 people.

The 59 camps are recognized by the UNRWA and host 1.5 million refugees in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. These camps contain the world's largest and oldest refugee population.

Do you notice, almost every one of the camps are claimed to be the largest refugee total? That means they are continually growing with no possibility of returning refugees to their native country.

AND THE OLDEST POPULATON MUST BE THE ROMNI, THEIR COUNTY INDIA LOST TO THEM IN DEEP TIME.

The UN is lost in politics and rhetoric; this cannot be the solution.

parzival · 2022-10-25T03:24:48Z

katesisco 🙏 The Romani & their story through their music... [Link]

VooDoo6 · 2022-10-24T18:44:20Z

Stupefying ignorance on so many levels. 💩🎪🤡

101ST AIRBORNE DEPLOYED TO UKRAINE’S BORDER ‘READY TO FIGHT TONIGHT’ [Link]

codis · 2022-10-25T05:55:47Z

VooDoo6 As another commenter said, just huffin' and puffin'. A show for the media.

Light infantry troups never win a war ...

VooDoo6 · 2022-10-25T14:15:22Z

VooDoo6 As another commenter said, just huffin' and puffin'. A show for the media.

Light infantry troups never win a war ...

Yes no doubt. Orchestrated contrived Saber Rattling drama. Dr. Strangelove Redeux [Link]

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