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NewsReal: What's the REAL Reason For West-Russia War Over Ukraine?

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Sun, 06 Nov 2022 21:45 UTC

They say it's for protecting Ukraine from Russian invasion, and that even if Putin 'gets what he wants' from there, 'standing up for Ukraine' is 'just the right thing to do'.

Obviously, this reason is not credible, coming as it does from people who destroyed Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. There are always REAL reasons - usually Big Money ones - behind the propaganda narratives.

So, in Ukraine's case, what is it that impels NATO countries to send their entire military arsenals to Ukraine, plunge their economies into economic despair and energy blackouts, and risk permanently upending global stability? In the first hour of this NewsReal, Joe and Niall come up with a 'big picture answer'.

The second hour covers the upcoming US Mid-Term Elections (will Trump-backed candidates win 'bigly', or will the Democratic Party pull off another 'miraculous' victory?), and the bizarre incident involving the Speaker of the House's elderly husband, a hammer, and a strange friend - who the media suggests was a pro-Trump right-winger who entered the Pelosis' home with assassination on his mind.

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parzival · 2022-11-06T22:13:36Z

Lone Russian engineer survives several consecutive grenade attacks by Ukrainian drones. [Link]
Twice he grabs the grenade and throws it away.

Unbelievable stuff.

Gnostic · 2022-11-07T12:25:02Z

parzival Awful just awful.

Dmyness · 2022-11-07T18:29:31Z

parzival unbelievable??

Try this one on for size: All the wierd narratives about Paul pelosi keep changing! My theory is Nancy set it up to get rid of him. Only thing that makes any sense at all.

Won't go into this any further here.

think about it!

tonyopmoc · 2022-11-07T20:10:02Z

parzival Whilst the latest lob a grenade from 100 feet up from a drone, on an injured lone soldier in a trench - looks very real (like not computer generated). I think it highly likely it was staged, using a real human being, who is O.K..

If it is real, it is most definitely a war crime, of the most despicable order.

It could have been filmed anywhere in the world at any time.

The main reason, I think it is fake, is that it involves one man in a trench, who throws the first grenade away.

How come he is alone in the trench?

Where are his fellow soldiers?

Where are all the blood and guts, apart from a wound he appears to have on his side.

So far as I am aware, in any war in human history, your fellow soldiers, don't just run away, cos you are wounded a bit, without leaving any evidence that they had ever been there too.

And The Trench is not very wide, (could have been done with a garden digger) but seems quite long, and he eventually gets up and runs.

The reality is far worse than this video, which I think was made for propaganda purposes, by which side, for what reason, I ain't got a clue.

"Lone Russian engineer survives several consecutive grenade attacks by Ukrainian drones. Twice he grabs the grenade and throws it away.

Unbelievable stuff."

That's why I don't believe it.

[Link]

parzival · 2022-11-08T06:43:55Z

tonyopmoc Valid/good points. Thanks for your input!

parzival · 2022-11-08T06:44:28Z

Dmyness I wouldn't put it past Nancy...

VooDoo6 · 2022-11-12T23:22:28Z

Lone Russian engineer survives several consecutive grenade attacks by Ukrainian drones. [Link]
Twice he grabs the grenade and throws it away.

Unbelievable stuff.

Posted it already days ago. 😏

Animanarchy · 2022-11-12T23:30:17Z

VooDoo6 et al, I just went to check out that video but they deleted their tweet for whatever reason.

VooDoo6 · 2022-11-12T23:40:07Z

VooDoo6 et al, I just went to check out that video but they deleted their tweet for whatever reason.

Sure here’s the link I posted some 5 days ago. Scroll down & you’ll see it.

Ukraine bombed dam with American missiles - Kherson officials

The Ukrainian military fired US-made HIMARS missiles at the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric dam in Kherson Region on Sunday, damaging one of the floodgates, emergency services have told RIA Novosti. Six...

Winston Smith · 2022-11-06T22:58:48Z

"...and the bizarre incident involving the Speaker of the House's elderly husband, a hammer, and a strange friend - who the media suggests was a pro-Trump right-winger who entered the Pelosis' home with assassination on his mind."

Hey, just because it was rumored that both Pelosi and the assailant were clad only in their underwear bottoms when police arrived is no reason to become suspicious or conspiracy-minded. It's common for assassins to undress before committing their awful deeds.

It is a little known fact, but Lee Harvey Oswald was buck naked when he shot Kennedy, as was James Earl Ray when he shot MLK.

(And I won't even mention the rumor about Sirhan's Palestinian-flag-colored split-crotch panties....) ;-)

jfm5959 ·

Winston Smith

· 2022-11-07T17:32:36Z

HashAttack2 · 2022-11-08T15:35:52Z

Winston Smith Hippy, LGBT & BLM banner loving naturists have always been right wing extremists

VooDoo6 · 2022-11-12T23:51:17Z

"...and the bizarre incident involving the Speaker of the House's elderly husband, a hammer, and a strange friend - who the media suggests was a pro-Trump right-winger who entered the Pelosis' home with assassination on his mind."

Hey, just because it was rumored that both Pelosi and the assailant were clad only in their underwear bottoms when police arrived is no reason to become suspicious or conspiracy-minded. It's common for assassins to undress before committing their awful deeds.

It is a little known fact, but Lee Harvey Oswald was buck naked when he shot Kennedy, as was James Earl Ray when he shot MLK.

(And I won't even mention the rumor about Sirhan's Palestinian-flag-colored split-crotch panties....) ;-)

Hammer’s are a Mason’s symbol fwiw. Has a very deep & profound meaning.

Questioneverything · 2022-11-07T03:09:34Z

Whats the reason you hear about anything these days?

A distraction!

Animanarchy · 2022-11-07T06:05:09Z

Questioneverything Huh? I was befuddled when I found this trying to compound what I find confounded considering irrational thoughts in concentric circles as a constitutionally confused constituent as a result of the curriculum?.. good point.

Gnostic · 2022-11-07T12:35:37Z

World domination.

That was a hard question to answer no?

HashAttack2 · 2022-11-07T14:46:01Z

Ukraine is the "Camelot" of Western civilization, the shining beacon of freedom and democracy. If that candle goes out the West is lost and thus the tragedy of not being able to "guide" the unwashed populations of the jungle that they call the "rest of the world"

AmandaMay · 2022-11-07T14:51:30Z

just the next stage in ushering in the Great Reset, cover story for collapsing the global economy.

parzival · 2022-11-19T12:14:27Z

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To join the live event by clicking on the zoom link: [Link]

locust · 2022-11-07T19:22:09Z

Reasons for this particular theater of war, reasons which are always the same: :

1. Military toys and money

2. Destroy the past, to destroy a people.

3. Bribery cash money

4. Create fear on demand.

5. Steal stuff under cover of gunfire, stuff which is then laundered into money.

It boils down to money and power over others.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-11-08T22:14:30Z

Listened to the whole thing today while I was making a shelf for the back corner in my getaway place....and all I can say is...

thanks fellas

I did notice however, that the unicorn on the couch seems a bit discombobulated, but whatever BS is everywhere I reckon.

OK, I'm gonna try to remember something new I learned on this edit .....I can't think of anything off the top of my head....still, I appreciate the sentiment expressed. Plus, any NewsReal worth its salt has to be basically fairly regular to establish reliability in the minds of others, so there is value in having an episode either way and let me say again - thanks fellas.

Ken

Animanarchy · 2022-11-08T22:48:13Z

Buffalo_Ken Salt, there's a good idea. I'll take it for sustenance if I get stranded. I'm not a fresh water amphibian. However I just thought of a good way to cross the border. Hobbit style. Look at the bottom of Niagara Falls for a barrel. (I'd really have to be baked and blacked out drunk on who knows how many mushrooms; hence "Hobbit style").

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-11-08T22:58:50Z

Animanarchy - hey, it is fun to imagine, and if circumstances were otherwise you and I could be be good partners....you being the Steward and me the looking for a Steward one and other things as well of course.

So, I guess, we get second best - we can talk and think about it online, but sometimes, shooting the shit is the best way to learn new lessons and some of the stuff you have mentioned with respect to your "cooking" style has inspired me and it will be part of the recipe I plan on posting when the pub gets going on the other place and other topic of interest here and whatnot!

Ken

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-11-08T23:08:45Z

Animanarchy - but and only because I like to share, here is the recipe:

1. mix of butter and olive oil - half a cup each to pleasure preferred..

2. heat it up in a small pot add some chocolate and then another ingredient if desired...

3. keep it warm don't let it boil too much

4. meanwhile and beforehand preferable put a half cup of chia in water equal and let it soak

5. get a bowl put flour in it, honey if you want, sugar for sure, I used brown sugar, honey, or did I say that already?

6. add two eggs

7. mix it up, the bowl contents and pot alike, take it all well mixed and poor it into a flat plan with edges into an oven already heated to about 350 Fahrenheit or so, and then let it cook for 20 minutes....then let it cool, then heat it back up again is what I did, and let it solidify a bit.

8. the chia is most nutritious, the bar is tasty and flexible and good.

~

This is the kind of shit we would have talked face-to-face if you made it down here, but I understand and I respect your choice....maybe it is for the best.

Ken

Animanarchy · 2022-11-08T23:09:57Z

Buffalo_Ken Cool! Or should say chili?

Alas, you know I can't risk staying in the States, though at least we have the seeing stones to communicate through with a miasma of ideas.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-11-08T23:12:46Z

Animanarchy - no doubt...it is good to share cooking ideas.

Ken

Animanarchy · 2022-11-08T23:15:56Z

Buffalo_Ken Interesting recipe. Sounds good. Personally I avoid refined sugar for the most part so I'd omit that (and maybe add or alter some things according to my tastes) though I've eaten a lot of honey recently. I normally just go for that (unpasteurized), blackstrap molasses (preferably organic), or maple syrup or maybe stevia as a sweetener or any sort of combo thereof.

Animanarchy · 2022-11-08T23:17:25Z

The honey I was eating recently I mixed with almond butter.

That's delicious with cocoa/cacao powder and maybe some Himalayan/sea salt.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-11-10T23:29:59Z

OK, eff it, it is so hard to find things here on sott.net and for the sake of a forum contributor that gets a minus (-) in my book.

Regardless, could be Odessa is off the table now if agreements are being made, but those folks in the Kherson area voted to be part of Russia, they gonna have a grievance fair if they got played and that sort of thing has consequences long lived. Is the river the border or what?

~

If dimwit diplomats come begging for mercy, force them onto the floor and tell them to lick your toes if the dimwit diplomat wants you to believe them.....and when they are down there licking your toes literally kick them in the face and beat them upside the head, and let them know the facts of the matter: Odessa beckons. Then, send them on their way and let them contemplate how a dimwit get treated in Eastern Europe.

~

So, if you want to wait till ground solidified, then wait, but Rommel would of let the paratroopers loose and with naval support Odessa been back to momma.....as it is, seems Russia has lost the initiative, or is it all another Russian feint? If so, this game is getting tiring and most of us in the whole effing wide world want peace - so consider that you dimwits.

~

BK

HashAttack2 · 2022-11-11T15:30:00Z

Buffalo_Ken Peace in Ukraine would not result in peace everywhere else - If the SMO was settled today, the West would be free to ramp up provocation over Taiwan

I wish the Russians would liquidate the bastards that are shelling Donetsk, but otherwise I am quite happy for the Russians to pull back and continue destroying anything the West sends to Ukraine

Winternights3 · 2022-11-10T23:42:27Z

Destabilisation, simple.

The perfect War liken to the perfect storm, both destructive and happen regardless of human cost.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-11-10T23:55:26Z

Winternights3 - destabilization may not be as simple as chaos think it is because some shapes, some forms, they have permanence.

So, I'm thinking this conflict is reaching resolution and my heart resides with Odessa, but if the fighting stops and peace ensues then I am all for it in support.

Human cost is not indifferent to harm caused, and harm caused always is reciprocated.

Best to you,

Ken

Winternights3 · 2022-11-11T00:00:17Z

Buffalo_Ken It's nearly tomorrow here.

The question asks for a " Reason " , I duly gave it, destabilisation, admittedly I may well be wrong Ken, but that's my answer

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-11-11T00:00:46Z

Winternights3 - fair enough that.

Winternights3 · 2022-11-11T00:02:41Z

Buffalo_Ken What's weather doing your neck of the woods?

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-11-11T00:07:56Z

Winternights3 - a slow steady rain basically coming from remnants of Nicole and I for one consider her a fine storm that I would just like to meet up so close if you know what I mean WN3!

However, Petie the rabbit has gone missing....( ).....I'm sorry, I should not laugh, but that rabbit....just like my daughter to drop a rabbit on us and get my wife so worried about another little thing.....anyhow, Petie is missing, but I said to my dog Evie, the Jack Russell, I said Evie, Petie needs good loving....he is a rabbit, he wants to reproduce and who am I to keep Petie in a cage? Evie looked blankly in a way, but listened nonetheless......

Still, I noticed, Evie seemed to be nervous about something...

not sure what it means WN3, but time will tell I reckon.

Ken

Winternights3 · 2022-11-11T00:13:48Z

Buffalo_Ken My Bro is on holiday in Florida at the moment, Nicole was an unexpected surprise

Winternights3 · 2022-11-11T00:24:50Z

Buffalo_Ken Here in Old Blighty, the temperature is still above normal, due to South Westerly winds.

This is of course due to cold air pluming down the Atlantic ocean, driving warm air up from the Azores, very unseasonal.

Midst cold air is a knocking and isn't that far away, we may well have snow before December 🥳

parzival · 2022-11-11T20:19:40Z

In light of Russia withdrawing from Kherson, here's an interesting take on the intrigue that is occurring in South-Eastern Ukraine right now, and the power of multinational corporate power influencing both sides of the conflict:

'Russia-Poland-Cargill Split Ukraine: Americans Wait On Reach Around' BY PHIL BUTLER [Link]

rakarb · 2022-11-12T22:24:19Z

it has allways been nice to sit in sofas commenting on ppl who are being fired at.

i hope it will stay that way forever and that you will never ever have to go out and get your hands dirty / choose one side finally ever.

(makes it soo much simpler to claim the higher moral ground)

VooDoo6 · 2022-11-13T00:00:20Z

More fake projected retarded Zionist puissance - 🤡💩🎪

Mykhailo Podolyak, an advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, has called for attacks inside Iran as the country’s drones cause setbacks for the Ukrainian military. [Link]

Javed · 2022-11-13T02:44:57Z

What's Behind Peace Signals From Washington [Link] #astrology

parzival ·

Javed

· 2022-11-13T05:35:12Z

parzival · 2022-11-14T05:18:02Z

It Isn't Cognitive Dissonance. It's Doublethink [Link]
Certum est, quia impossibile. by Thorsteinn Siglaugsson

Solare · 2022-11-14T19:30:10Z

Earth is returning to a long overdue period of prolonged glaciation (Younger Dryas) and all land within 30 degress on either side of the equator is the survival zone which not coincidentally is also the current conflict zone. It's all about a land grab and surviving another ice age. This was known since the mid 50's when the International Geophysical Year was convened to assess the situation. It was at that time the decision was made to conceal this fact from the masses whom they planned to cull when the onset of glaciation could no longer be concealed (now). My personal experience occurred in 1956 when there was a hard freeze in Miami, Florida. I vividly recall just the tips of the grass protruding above the ice that formed after a neighbor turned on his water sprinklers to save his orange trees. The Global Reset is the elitist's response to a cosmic reset which eradicates life forms that are out of balance with nature.

[Link]

Solare · 2022-11-14T19:37:14Z

griever · 2022-11-16T16:29:48Z

Here is a look into how the mirage reality of world events is constructed:

“The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”

—Former CIA Director William Colby

-------------------------------------

I was taught to lie, to betray and not to tell the truth to the public.

...

I ended up publishing articles under my own name written by agents of the CIA and other intelligence services, especially the German secret service.

...

Most journalists from respected and big media organisations are closely connected to the German Marshall Fund, the Atlantik-Brücke or other so-called transatlantic organisations…once you’re connected, you make friends with selected Americans. You think they are your friends and you start cooperating. They work on your ego, make you feel like you’re important. And one day one of them will ask you ‘Will you do me this favor’…

...

We’re talking about puppets on a string, journalists who write or say whatever their masters tell them to say or write. If you see how the mainstream media is reporting about the Ukraine conflict and if you know what’s really going on, you get the picture. The masters in the background are pushing for war with Russia and western journalists are putting on their helmets.

...

When I told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (Ulfkotte’s newspaper) that I would publish the book, their lawyers sent me a letter threatening with all legal consequences if I would publish any names or secrets — but I don’t mind. You see, I don’t have children to take care of.

—Udo Ulfkotte, German Journalist in 2017, Now Dead

[Link]

VooDoo6 · 2022-11-16T16:42:19Z

Here is a look into how the mirage reality of world events is constructed:

“The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”

—Former CIA Director William Colby

-------------------------------------

I was taught to lie, to betray and not to tell the truth to the public.

...

I ended up publishing articles under my own name written by agents of the CIA and other intelligence services, especially the German secret service.

...

Most journalists from respected and big media organisations are closely connected to the German Marshall Fund, the Atlantik-Brücke or other so-called transatlantic organisations…once you’re connected, you make friends with selected Americans. You think they are your friends and you start cooperating. They work on your ego, make you feel like you’re important. And one day one of them will ask you ‘Will you do me this favor’…

...

We’re talking about puppets on a string, journalists who write or say whatever their masters tell them to say or write. If you see how the mainstream media is reporting about the Ukraine conflict and if you know what’s really going on, you get the picture. The masters in the background are pushing for war with Russia and western journalists are putting on their helmets.

...

When I told the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (Ulfkotte’s newspaper) that I would publish the book, their lawyers sent me a letter threatening with all legal consequences if I would publish any names or secrets — but I don’t mind. You see, I don’t have children to take care of.

—Udo Ulfkotte, German Journalist in 2017, Now Dead

[Link]

True story.

rakarb · 2022-11-18T22:51:51Z

ps; why do you apparently think that a «real reason» is a prerequisite for going to war?

rakarb · 2022-11-18T23:08:01Z

hmm. most likely bcz you enjoy being screwed; [Link]

VooDoo6 · 2022-11-19T00:12:32Z

hmm. most likely bcz you enjoy being screwed; [Link]

Great song too bad so many people don’t have a clue.

Buffalo_Ken · 2022-11-23T17:00:40Z

This article seems to do a good job of coalescing recent events....

A Very Different Global State of Affairs Takes Hold - By Alastair Crooke as published at LewRockwell's place:

[Link]
BK

“

Quote of the Day

Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well... You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect...

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.

- Michael Crichton

”

French and Germans primarily, it seems : [Link] Russian resources: Airborne troops near Chasovoy Yar encountered foreign military personnel...

codis

Bingo.. as expected Rogan is a plant and his platform is being used by the fkkr Carlson to peddle this nonsense for the next big inflation...

krisjvr

'Israel is weaker than a spider's web,' Fakery and propaganda has its own limits. At the end, few drops of water that melted the 'witch'.

PRao

Quote: "A giant Manta Ray style underwater drone that could one day carry out long-distance missions around the world , has been successfully...

Dwoods44

They are desperate to hide the elephant (Israel's mass murders) and even ready to dump the entire next generation into oblivion. Is Scott Galloway...

PRao

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