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German politicians talk of rationing heating gas... all for a 'good cause'

P Gosselin
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Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:31 UTC

Germany "gets more than half of its natural gas needs from Russia" and "almost half of all German households heat their apartments and houses directly and many more indirectly via district heating." reports German energy site Blackout News here.

But to punish Russian president Vladimir Putin, German leaders are now calling on citizens to endure pain by cutting back on their consumption of natural gas to heat their homes and cook their food. Already there's talk of rationing natural gas over the coming winter, and German politicians are desperate to find a way to explain it. "If you want to harm Putin a little, save energy," said German Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck (Greens party).

"Of course, 'freeze to hurt Putin' sounds better than 'government rationing gas," writes Blackout News, which expects Russian gas supplies will eventually be halted and rationing inevitable. The construction of liquefied gas terminals in Germany that has been announced will take years to complete.

Currently natural gas prices in Germany have skyrocketed to already painful levels. "Households with low incomes will soon not be able to afford heating," says BlackOut News.

So much has the pressure grown in Germany to conserve gas, that "a group of energy experts is already recommending that politicians change rental law regarding the minimum temperature in rented apartments. In doing so, the experts consider comfort restrictions next winter to be conceivable and possibly necessary," reports Blackout News.

That means tenants may find themselves freezing in underheated apartments all winter long. But it's all for a good cause, politicians are insisting.

Unless the bitter conflict between Russia and Ukraine gets resolved soon, which few experts believe, Germans and Europeans can expect a lot of pain, especially over the coming winter. The bill for the country's energy policy debacle is coming due, and it will be a real eye-popper

The situation has become so critical that even Habeck now sees the light and "wants to bring coal-fired power plants back online and is even thinking about extending the operating lives of the last nuclear power plants", two sources of energy that have long been vilified in Germany.

But generating electrical power from coal and nuclear will not solve the German heating problem, noted Blackout News. "It is completely utopian to believe that the heating system in 50 percent of all households can be quickly converted."

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codis · 2022-03-10T17:54:57Z

Not sure if that gonna end well.

Rephrasing it - I'm sure this is not gonna end well...

Levi · 2022-03-10T17:58:46Z

Again another "conspiracy theory" the "tin-foil hat wearers" got right. Petrol rationing, grain rationing, water rationing, etc....

Good Optics · 2022-03-10T18:01:17Z

"If you want to harm Putin a little, save energy,"

Does anyone else see all this as more than a little bit "satanic", so to say ?

Nazis good, Putin bad . . . really ?

codis · 2022-03-10T18:02:47Z

Currently natural gas prices in Germany have skyrocketed to already painful levels. "Households with low incomes will soon not be able to afford heating," says BlackOut News.

So, if they die it's Putins fault, not the vaxx ...

Chicken Farmer · 2022-03-10T19:07:34Z

I believe this is all happening according to plan. Have a virus to "lockdown" people and make the government stronger. Logistics will become a nightmare, and prices for everything will skyrocket. But we will blame a country that invaded another for the commodity prices. And when they have to ration items "for a greater good" people will go along with this.

All according to the great reset and agenda 2030. They need to lower the population one way or another, but the gov't will take none of the blame.

ReRan · 2022-03-10T19:20:41Z

Chicken Farmer Yup. Sick, eh?

LadyRad · 2022-03-10T20:01:40Z

Well, if that is the “solution” according to the politicians, they should set a personal example and start with stopping heating all government buildings where they’re working from. Its only fair.

Chicken Farmer · 2022-03-10T20:54:52Z

LadyRad

Their offices, homes, planes, cars.....cut the fuel use for all of it.

Chester Goode · 2022-03-11T13:40:03Z

These German pols are saying what their US/Israel masters order them to say. They are paving the way for what is to come. If their people can be weaned off of Russian product, the US oil (and LNG) barons stand ready to sell them LNG at a super-prime rate. If their foreign masters would allow it, they could also look into an overland pipeline to Iran, but China might not like that idea. Sad to see a once-great nation chained to the wall like this, but if they object too much, the media will accuse them of reverting back to Nazism.

codis · 2022-03-11T14:03:46Z

Chester Goode What the Anglo-Saxon sphere tried to avoid for decades, even centuries, is a coalition of Russia and Germany. In terms of military and economic power, they would rival the US and China.

Chicken Farmer · 2022-03-11T14:30:56Z

codis How would WW2 have played out if the Russian-German alliance would have stayed in tact the entire war? I'm thinking it would have been a different outcome.

Chester Goode · 2022-03-11T14:56:09Z

Chicken Farmer I don't think it would have happened. Hitler's life-goal, which he raved about from 1917 onward, was to stamp out what he always called "Bolshevism." He wanted to kill or remove all Russians west of the Urals and give the land to SS and Army veterans to start farms on in the new "lebensraum."

codis · 2022-03-11T16:11:57Z

Chicken Farmer That is quite a hypothetical question.

Because, WWI was instigated by the Brits, who got scared by the unification of Germany in 1871, and its meteoric rise in economy, science, and military. Ze Germans were late to the colony game, but a superior adversary. Thus they dragged the Russian empire and the Americans into the war.

If you remember, the Kaiserreich made a separate peace with Russia (Lenin), and were about to beat the French and Brits. This is were they pulled the Americans in, and the rest is history.

With fostering the Bolshevik in Russia and the murky figure Hitler in Germany, they set up the next war to finish off both. They only got boots on the ground when it became clear that Russia (now Stalin) would overrun Germany.

Chester Goode · 2022-03-11T17:28:30Z

codis By way of discussion only (not contention:) by the end of 1917, when Russia dropped out of the war, the English blockade of German ports had caused serious crises. There was no leather, no fertilizer, few men and horses to work whatever crops could be planted, very little food and medical supplies coming in from neutrals, and one labor strike after another, including at munitions plants. English propaganda belabored the shortages, endlessly blaming the Kaiser, Ludendorff and Hindenburg, weakening the will to fight on.

Military rations and ammunition supplies were short and rail strikes disrupted the flow of supplies to the front and even left wounded men dying and bleeding on railroad cars which the unions refused to move back into Germany. New recruits arriving at the front were openly rebellious and snapped back at officers issuing orders and occasionally refused to obey. Desertions were increasing radically.

Yes, the Kaiserschlacht attacks were a brave but last-gasp attempt to obtain victory, but some historians have said that when the German soldiers swept forward in their last big push, they were demoralized when they saw the vast supply dumps the allies had, bursting with food, medicines, liquors, grain, boots and new weapons and tons of ammunition. They, meanwhile, had little or nothing. Though they were advancing at the time, they knew they had lost the war. Ludendorff cited total lack of morale, along with food, fuel, ammunition and supplies when he told the Kaiser the war needed to end soon.

codis · 2022-03-11T17:50:29Z

Chester Goode The Kaiser had to make peace with Russia to stop the war on two fronts. The lifted pressure gave the German army a slight competitive edge. With the French and Brits equally demoralized and tired of the war, the American troups made the difference.

Chicken Farmer · 2022-03-11T18:13:43Z

Chester Goode I totally get that, but what would have happened if Stalin and Hitler put their differences aside for a few years to defeat the west and then Hitler invades the Soviet Union? Maybe if Hitler knew the Soviets would sacrifice the number of men to fight like they did against him, he could provide weapons and the Soviets would have disposable manpower.

Seems a bit far fetched I know, but hey, in an alternate universe it could happen.

codis · 2022-03-11T19:56:02Z

Chicken Farmer If I remember correctly, the so-called royal houses of Russia, Germany and the UK were all related. And the Kaiser, the tsar and the British king wer cousins.

Chester Goode · 2022-03-11T20:35:12Z

codis The Germans had to leave a large contingent of troops on the eastern front to occupy the land the Communists ceded to them at Brest-Litovsk. Others were sent west, subject to growing indifference and even hostility from civilians stirred up by years of English anti-war propaganda and they saw the conditions in Germany--nothing in shop windows, thin, hungry, angry people in the streets and the rail terminals they used, people wearing clogs and ragged or multi-patched clothes, hungry children in the streets, news of factory and rail strikes all over the country.

Men arriving on the west front were already war-weary, though they hadn't had a strong, constant, daily dose of English propaganda as the troops and civilians in the west had. They knew there was no fuel, that unions disrupted ammunition trains going to the front, they were on short rations, their families were hungry and penniless, and they saw more and more fresh, well-fed American troops moving to the front opposite them every day. I agree that by the end, the French morale, after millions of losses and with France as a primary battleground, ruined by the fighting, was at breaking point, but the Brits, based on what I have seen, still had their bulldog will to fight on. The Americans, as per usual, thought they could beat anybody, an idea much-disproved in recent times.

Makes you wonder--what if the Germans had won? Likely they would have stripped France of a few colonies, demanded reparations of some sort and publicly humiliated French leaders for a few years, then would have pulled back into Germany. Very doubtful they could have figured out a way to attack England, and the Americans would have just gone home. No Versailles Treaty, no reparations on Germany, no rise of Hitler and Nazism, no WWII. Maybe...

codis · 2022-03-12T09:11:56Z

Chester Goode

Very doubtful they could have figured out a way to attack England, and the Americans would have just gone home. No Versailles Treaty, no reparations on Germany, no rise of Hitler and Nazism, no WWII. Maybe...

Maybe ... yes.

I might add, it should be clear that Hitler never really intended to invade Britain.

Not only had he been there in the late '20s for several months, he titled a whole section of "Mein Kampf" with "Together with Great Britain against the Bolsheviks". Maybe he fell for British duplicity and propaganda like the Poles, or it was a put-up affair. Despite the mutual bombings. Currently I tend to the latter - a put-up job by an Austrian actor.

Why did Hess go to the UK ?

Chester Goode · 2022-03-12T13:39:21Z

codis Not all historians agree that Hitler ever lived in England. If he did, it would have been prior to WWI when his brother's family had a home in Liverpool. By the late 20's Hitler was a rapidly-rising star in German politics, criss-crossing the country campaigning for Nazi candidates with the press following him everywhere.

Hitler's underlings told him the Royal Navy could stop any attempt to invade UK via the Channel, not to mention the RAF. They said there were no available ships capable of carrying tanks and heavy weapons, that ships at hand had hatch openings too small to allow such cargo to be loaded into their holds, plus there was no fuel for an invasion fleet.

He said he learned all he knew about propaganda and how to disseminate it from the British during WWI and as the world learned, he was a master at it himself. He did entertain some odd admiration for the English. As late as December 1944 he was talking about an alliance with them to fight the Soviets. He said he would be willing to lend them the German Army if asked to maintain their empire and he said he liked the way a couple of hundred thousand Brits were able to control 450 million people in India. With his "halt order" he let the British Army off the hook at Dunkirk.

Hitler and Hess were seen together a few days before Hess' flight to Scotland. Great secrecy surrounds this odd antic, but some historians say Hess was to tell the English via the Duke of Hamilton that Hitler was willing to stop fighting them, yet would allow their war production to continue so as to keep working people employed, that Germany would buy all their war goods for use only against the Soviets and that no further hostility would be shown toward UK or its possessions.

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