LAURA KNIGHT-JADCZYK AND JOE QUINN
Since the 9/11 attacks, no book has provided a satisfactory answer as to WHY the attacks occurred and who was ultimately responsible for carrying them out - until now.
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The trolling methods discussed vindicate the SOTT line: having even passably competent moderation when running a forum or blog pretty much neutralizes trolls, professional and otherwise. It also shows that the trolls cook with water like everybody else, even if they take the time to "analyze" specific posters whom they judge to be influential.
What is discussed validates by extension all the people who allege being victims of group mobbing / covert harassment who often end up with their lives destroyed by such operations while being branded paranoiacs.
“Truish”Words, but.Actions?..
I've been open minded sort my whole life, yet we all have subconsciences that have their sociogenetic programming. Granted, this reeks of truth (I say reeks because of the vileness of shilling troll types.) As to the author, I admire his words but question lack of action, per infra. Why? Because I personally know MANY previously "politically neutral" but GOOD people, who, once the propaganda veil was lifted from their eyes, WERE NOT and ARE NOT afraid of the truth - ANY TRUTH.
So, an important question I would ask the author (who's already stated he likely won't reply where it was first posted, and I'm not going to post this elsewhere), is how, after being an online shill at all, (for an indeterminate period from "early 2011 to September 2011" - which could mean 6/30/2011 to 9/1/11, inclusive - 64 days - possibly even 63 days and 2 seconds) and presumably knowing about 9/11 and Operation Cast Lead, with White Phosphorous raining down, etc., etc., etc, ad nauseam, can he possibly STILL be pro-Israel???
I too admired Israel in my youth, for I believed that the Munich hostages were really taken by Islamic Extremist palestinians, and that they were heroes for their Entebbe raid. (After all, didn't Walter Cronkite say so???) But I've since learned that even back then - if one went to the library - one would have found out about Operation Gladio, and now, with the internet, one CAN, IN REAL TIME find that the (1) Uganda Raid, and that (2) Leo on the Cruise ship, (3) the USS Liberty, et al, ad infinitum, were ALL ISRAELI FALSE FLAGS! And (3) that 9/11 and 7/7 seem to be a more overtly Joint Effort between Israel and PTB in the US and UK.) So how can he still support Israel???
Perhaps this simply is a lesser, more `esoteric,' shill technique, when they give up on a site because the moderators and readers are both smart and not "bought off," (contrast, Alex Jones' becoming Pro-Israel - interesting coincidence, that subject again... hmmmm.) which was something LKJ, SOTT, and Mike Rivero of What Really Happened helped opened my eyes to) - then the best they can do is fall back to a more subtle propaganda/disinformation tactic - that of dilution or "watering down." Is this that?
And I wonder whether he's still a shill - but has been promoted - and he himself pitched this very idea. As for actions instead of words, telling SOTT Folks that there are lying shills & trolls out there is like saying the sun will rise in the East. Tell us something we DON'T KNOW. LIKE THESE:
- EXACTLY WHAT WAS THAT COMPANY'S NAME?
- EXACTLY WHERE?
- EXACTLY WHEN?
- EXACTLY WHO? (Contrast NSA Whistleblowers.)
- And certainly, if he has the integrity he claims, he would have made a copy of those books for us, right?*
I BELIEVE Lisa at top, and AGREE with, "Name," just above, who states: "What is discussed validates by extension all the people who allege being victims of group mobbing / covert harassment who often end up with their lives destroyed by such operations while being branded paranoiacs." (I wonder, LISA- though you don't say it - about the strange consistency and timing of the "meme" phrase.)
I HERE OVERTLY QUESTION the Author's lack of those actions, & frankly DARE him to answer them, and, must - in this hyper-shilled age - recommend taking his words, pending answers to the above specific and quite reasonable questions, as at best a compliment to the integrity and smarts of SOTT's writers, moderators and commenters.
* Getting a little sarcastic. Sorry.
R.C.
Ps. I've edited out but concurrently saved some anticipatory words and points before posting the above.
RC
RCsez,No Reply Here!See below!
Sorry.
Thanks.
“Truish” Words, but.Actions?
I've been open minded sort my whole life, yet we all have subconsciences that have their sociogenetic programming. Granted, this REEKS of truth, but. . . (I say “reeks” because of the vileness of shilling troll types.) As to the author, I admire his words but question his lack of action, per infra. Why? Because I personally know MANY previously "politically neutral" but GOOD people, who, once the propaganda veil was lifted from their eyes, WERE NOT and ARE NOT afraid of the truth - ANY TRUTH..
So, an important question I would ask the author (who's already stated he likely won't reply where it was first posted, and I'm not going to post this elsewhere), is how, after being an online shill at all, (for an indeterminate period from "early 2011 to September 2011" - which could mean 6/30/2011 to 9/1/11, inclusive - 64 days - possibly even 63 days and 2 seconds) and presumably knowing about 9/11 and Operation Cast Lead, with White Phosphorous raining down, etc., etc., etc, ad nauseam, can he possibly STILL be pro-Israel??? .
I too admired Israel in my youth, for I believed that the Munich hostages were really taken by Islamic Extremist palestinians, and that they were heroes for their Entebbe raid. (After all, didn't Walter Cronkite say so???) But I've since learned that even back then - if one went to the library - one would have found out about Operation Gladio, and now, with the internet, one CAN, IN REAL TIME find that the (1) Uganda Raid, and that (2) Leo on the Cruise ship, (3) the USS Liberty, et al, ad infinitum, were ALL ISRAELI FALSE FLAGS!; and, (4) That 9/11 and 7/7 were likely Covert Joint Efforts of Israel and PTB in the US and UK. So how can he still support Israel???.
Perhaps this simply is a lesser, more `esoteric,' shill technique, when they give up on a site because the moderators are both smart and not "bought off," Alex Jones' becoming Pro-Israel - interesting coincidence, that subject again... hmmmm.) - which is something that LKJ, SOTT, and Mike Rivero of What Really Happened opened my eyes to- then the best they can do is fall back to a more subtle propaganda/disinformation tactic - that of dilution or "watering down." Is this that?
And I wonder whether he's still a shill - but has been promoted - and he himself pitched this very idea? (Once in The Mob/The CIA (“two sides of the same coin,” Sam Giancana) or Mossad, one’s never out, right?) “Once a shill, always a shill?”
And SOTT Folks, stop and ask yourself, who do YOU think those shills work for??? [Maybe* those exact same or similar PTB groupings? Or, - in Dana Carvey’s voice - “Satan, perhaps?” (Well, I guess that would be the third of fourth side.)
As to “actions instead of words,” telling SOTT Folks that there are lying shills & trolls out there is like saying the Sun will rise in the East. Tell us something we DON'T KNOW - LIKE THESE!
- EXACTLY WHAT WAS THAT COMPANY'S NAME? .
- EXACTLY WHERE?
- EXACTLY WHEN?.
- EXACTLY WHO?
- And certainly, if he has the integrity he claims, he would have made a copy of those books for us, right?* .
(Contrast the above to the sundry NSA whistleblowers.)
I BELIEVE Lisa at top, and AGREE with, "Name," just above, who states: "What is discussed validates by extension all the people who allege being victims of group mobbing / covert harassment who often end up with their lives destroyed by such operations while being branded paranoiacs." (I wonder, LISA- though you don't say it - about the strange consistency and timing of the "meme" phrase.).
I HERE OVERTLY QUESTION the Author's lack of those actions (which the integrity he claims would require) & I FRANKLY DARE him to answer them, and, must - in this sadly hyper-shilled age - recommend taking his words, pending answers to the above specific and quite reasonable questions, as at best a compliment to the integrity and smarts of SOTT's writers, readers, moderators and commenters..
* Getting a little sarcastic at points. Sorry.
R.C.
Ps. I've edited out, (but concurrently saved,) sundry words and points before posting the above.
RC
SOTT MODERATOR: Please redact my far harder to read first posting. Apologies! Thanks! RC
God..you really go on don't you?
SASS - You state, “God, YOU really go on, don’t YOU?”
I apologize if my discussion of THE ISSUE - disinformation trolls and one of their more esoteric techniques-of-LAST-resort - tested your attention span.
YOUR WORDS are a PERFECT example of the simplest and FIRST applied of such techniques of distraction, that old standby, “Ad Hominem.”
Pending your intelligent discussion of MY POINTS raised and not ME - (not expected) - I’ll politely presume your snide aside to be simply realtime proof of the truth of the Article’s Title. And since “trolling” originates with analogies to deep sea fishing, I’ll quickly end with, “Nibble on this, Babe.”
(Some obvious sarcasm sprinkled above.)
R.C.
So where do I apply?
Pay my mortgage and I'll have everyone in any town cheering; USA, USA, USA!!!
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...we are afforded a rare glimpse of how modern crime operates in America.
To many, these days, an operation like this would not even be considered criminal.
It's just "perception management." It's the latest thing!
But: I disagree. This is criminal. And all the signs that it is are there.
However, this story gives us only a few data points. It's far from a full picture. In fact, it's so devoid of precise facts that it could be said to be totally deniable. And I see that Rowan is quite vociferous about this, but I don't think his demands of this person are particularly realistic or pertinent. If he had the smarts and professionalism of some of the higher-level whistle blowers that have stepped forward, he probably wouldn't be working "odd office jobs" would he?
"This section also contained a number of hints for de-railing conversations that went too far away from what we were attempting. These strategies included various forms of personal attacks, complaining to the forum moderators, smearing the characters of our opponents, using images and icons effectively, and even dragging the tone of the conversation down with sexual innuendo, links to pornography, or other such things."
This was persistently done to me and just a few days ago, and the person threatened to find my children and said I will be "the new meme" and asked directly where I work. The smear campaign waged against me in 2006 has been resurrected by someone ( or a group of someones) using a different name, disseminating the old attack hit pieces written to discredit me as a writer, smear my character and name with sexually themed attacks, and attacking me using my children, family and friends. They have also been contacting my Fb friends, one by one, telling them I am a disinformation agent. Another person within the same time period ( within the last two weeks) who was on my FB friend list, also accused me of being a 'shill'. Could very well be the same group of people taking another shot at me. Thank you for publishing this piece. It doesn't surprise me or many others, I suspect, but it does ring true, because I've seen it happen. It's happened to me and continues to happen.