Extract from the transcript of 'Verdict with Dan Abrams' for Wednesday, April 23:

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Abrams: So, true or false, Norah O'Donnell, the tide is turning for Clinton?

Norah O'Donnell, MSNBC Chief Washington Correspondent: I think it is true that she's gained some momentum in her campaign announcing today, that they believe that they're going to raise some $10 million online in 24 hours. That would shatter all records, even Obama style records. She does have some momentum. She can keep going in this campaign and she did have a decisive win in Pennsylvania among women, white working class, older Americans.

And so, she can take that to some superdelegates and say, "I'm sticking in this race, I am a fighter."

Abrams: Roy Sekoff, true or false.

Roy Sekoff, The Huffington Post: Dan, that would have to be false. You know, it's going to take a lot more than a turning tide. It's going to take an asteroid falling out of the sky and landing on Barack Obama. I mean, that's where were at right now and it think that's what Hillary Clinton is staying in the game for. She's hoping to use the word of the day that he obliterates himself with some mistake.

But he's already weathered quite a few storms with Wright, and you know, Ayers, and the lapel pin and "bitter." So, I think, she's hanging in there waiting for him to step on a land mine but I just don't thing it's going to happen.

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Abrams: Pat Buchanan, true or false, the tide is turned?

Pat Buchanan, MSNBC Political Analyst: I agree with both guests. I think the tide has turned in Hillary's favor. The tide is rolling up to the seawall. It is not strong enough to go over the seawall right now. But Obama is whistling past the graveyard if he thinks he won a nice victory last night. He got beat worst than Dukakis did nationally.

And I do agree, you need a game-changer still for Hillary to win this. But she's got the right to make the argument if she has gotten a majority of popular votes to make the case. I don't know.

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