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Russian Su-57 stealth jets fly unseen over US bases in Iraq and Syria

Fort Russ
Sun, 10 May 2020 02:28 UTC

Russian Su-57 stealth jets flew 'unseen' over several U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria, the Russian publication Avia.Pro reported last Sunday.

"The Russian Su-57 fighter managed to pass unnoticed over American military airbases in northern Iraq. The incident occurred during the last appearance of a fifth-generation Russian fighter in Syria - according to a source, the Russian combat aircraft flew on its own, and was not transported aboard the An-124," the publication said.

According to Avia.Pro's sources, since Turkey does not allow Russian combat jets over its territory, the Su-57 could only get to Iraqi airspace from Syria by flying over U.S. military installations.

"Given the likely route of the Russian Su-57 fighter, a combat aircraft flew through the air corridor, flying over at least three U.S. military bases in Iraq and another three military bases in Syria," the publication stated.

Citing a military specialist, the publication claimed: "Until recently, the Russian Su-57 was ridiculed in the United States, claiming that it could not claim the title of stealth, however, given the fact that the Russian fighter unimpededly covered several thousand kilometers directly over the U.S. military bases in Iraq and Syria, it's quite obvious that we are really talking about a 'stealth plane' that successfully flew under Washington's nose."

Su-57 is a Russian fifth-generation multirole fighter jet, and it is slated to enter Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS-Воздушно-космические силы, Vozdushno-kosmicheskiye sily) service this year. It is a direct competitor to the F-22 Raptor, an American fifth-generation multirole fighter jet, which is fielded by the United States Air Force (USAF).

Apart from using a 10-15 years older technologies, the American jet also has the disadvantage of not being in production since 2011, when the former US President Barrack Obama canceled the production and ordered the destruction of all manufacturing tools. F-35, the only US fifth-generation fighter jet currently in production, is by no means a match to the Su-57, even according to US experts.

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Rowan Cocoan · 2020-05-10T02:49:22Z

OMG! I LOVE IT!

Of course, Te am FUKUSraHell will deny it. The MSM - per TF's instruction - will ignore it, and only we few, we aware, we open minded will be aware of it.

(Until, of course, some poor American kids in their F-35s get surprised and blown out of the skies)

But TF will fret not; they'll suppress that, and use the memory hole to make all right.

After all, 'We've always been on the same side of the war as ISIS!"

Bitter sarcasm.

R.C.

sottreader · 2020-05-10T07:01:33Z

Unfortunately, the conclusion drawn by the author of this article cannot be supported and should NOT be taken as fact.

Consider first of all that the US would not shoot down a Russian plane over foreign territory unless it represented a clear threat (and US bases in Iraq and Syria are NOT US territory). Thus, unless they represented a credible threat to US assets in the area, it would make no sense for the US to shift any of its radars that might have been tracking these planes into active targeting mode, a mode change which would be immediately detectable by the Russian planes and thereby provide additional intelligence to the Russians about US operations, capabilities, etc. The radars would remain in normal sweep/surveillance mode. Therefore, from the POV of the Russian planes, the only thing they could detect was that the US radars did not actually target them during the overflight, and thus they would have no way of knowing if the US radars in normal mode were picking up a return or not.

Also note that the term "stealth" is quite overblown - it does NOT mean invisible. It simply means that there is a lot of technology applied to attempt to MINIMIZE any observable signatures - the signatures cannot be TOTALLY eliminated, either by us or anyone else. Any claim to the contrary by anyone is utter BS. It's a normal military game: "stealth" technology can be rendered ineffective by more sophisticated sensors, which can be rendered ineffective by even better "stealth" technology, which can be rendered ineffective by still more sophisticated sensors, etc., etc., pretty much ad infinitum.

Of course, given the proclivity of the US gov't to lie all the time about damn near everything, we should also not believe what they might say about whether they were able to detect these planes or not (if they ever comment about this). Were I a betting man, my money would be on the side that they were observed, identified as not a threat, and therefore not actively targeted. If I were a Russian pilot in a potential future engagement, I would not stake my life on the fact that since they were not actively targeted by US radars during this overflight, that meant that these planes were completely undetectable by US radar systems.

Lemuel Gulliver · 2020-05-10T07:14:52Z

Excellent observations. Thank you.

sottreader · 2020-05-10T14:51:43Z

sottreader Last sentence of my post should have been written as ". . . I would not stake my life on the assumption that . . ." instead of ". . . I would not stake my life on the fact that . . ."

andy · 2020-05-10T07:29:13Z

ordered the destruction of all manufacturing tools ..,..how stupid is that

sottreader · 2020-05-10T17:43:45Z

andy The is a not-uncommon practice in the aerospace/defense industry when the bribes to the political class and the Pentagon procurers are sufficiently large. This assures the defense industry whores that the military will have no choice to fall back to tried and true, dependable items if/when the newer items do not meet their over-hyped capability, performance, and/or cost targets.

This was done to the Saturn rocket in order to force reliance on the space shuttle, and reportedly also to the SR-71, to the A-10, and probably many others as well.

IncenDiary · 2020-05-10T13:34:24Z

Interesting additional commentary here from Veterans Today reporter Nahed Al-Husaini [Link] regarding two of the US bases having just received advanced US radar and Patriot Missile batteries two weeks before, "This was a test of US capability, a test that US forces failed." The Associated Press article stating the Patriot missile defense systems now active is embedded as a screenshot.

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