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Five people killed at condo board meeting in Toronto

Joe Tacopino
New York Post
Mon, 19 Dec 2022 10:23 UTC

Five people were killed when a gunman stormed into a condo board meeting in Toronto, Canada, on Sunday and opened fire, cops said.

The gunman was shot and killed by police at a condo in Vaughan, Ontario, after going on his murderous rampage, according to Chief James MacSween of the York regional police.

"Horrendous scene," MacSween said. "Six deceased. One of them is the subject. The other five are victims."

In addition to the five dead, one other person was struck by gunfire and was recovering at a hospital Sunday night.

The chief said there was no further threat to the community and was hoping to get residents back into the building after a special unit's investigation is concluded.

The gunman's identity was not released late Sunday and a motive for the violence was unknown.

Mass shootings are rare in Canada and Toronto has long prided itself as being one of the safest big cities in the world.

In 2020, shortly after a gunman shot and killed 22 people in Portapique, Nova Scotia, Canada banned more than 1,500 models of "assault-style" firearms and components, and set limits on how destructive bullets could be.

The rate of death per person by firearm is far lower than in the US, which has more lax gun laws.

A 2021 analysis by the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation said Canada's rate of firearm homicides is 0.5 per 100,000 people, versus the United States' rate of 4.12.

With Post wires

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danny esq · 2022-12-22T12:25:52Z

We should ban all condo board meetings?

Artex · 2022-12-22T14:32:49Z

danny esq There should be strict federal rules on what condo and homeowners associations can do. I personally don't think anyone but the bank should be able to put a lien on someone's home, and certainly not for cosmetic complaints and other non-criminal behavior. Condo boards and HOAs draw out the worst sorts of people. People who have no other power or control in their lives, and people who think their vision of a proper neighborhood is in any way ideal for everyone, or even most people.

If I were a gambling man, I'd wager the shooter lived in the condos and was being pushed out or had a lien on his condo for some arbitrary rule. I mean, just search for stories about HOAs and such going after people for putting US flags up [Link] or leaving a brand new Rivian parked in their driveway [Link]
Anyway, I could be completely wrong, but honestly I'm surprised there aren't more HOA/Condo association mass shootings than school shootings.

Winston Smith · 2022-12-22T15:21:13Z

Artex Your post expressed my thoughts on the matter perfectly. Thanks.

danny esq · 2022-12-22T16:19:47Z

Artex I agree, I think society will move into a violent spasm, actually I have often wondered why certain G.P.so and MP's haven't been killed in my own country, I just think as people we are all being forced to live together with such huge differences in moral and spiritual ways, the only way not having been tried on earth is "every man for himself" and good people will eventually be forced by survival to destroy evil where ever it is found, and evil will try to destroy what is good where ever it is found.

I'm a peaceful loving man myself, but even I have my limits to how much governmental interference I can tolerate. So yeah I agree....even if I'm still calling for peace, others will continue to force their will onto me, making me react in either avoidance or meeting it with equal force.

Artex · 2022-12-22T16:38:30Z

danny esq I am peaceful in my thoughts and actions while I am a member of functioning society, but I haven't deluded myself (like "love and light" folks have) into thinking I will remain so if everything fell apart. I am prepared to protect my family by any means necessary in the event the worst happens. We're all 9 meals away from anarchy. But my prep strategy hasn't been collecting firearms (though I should invest in a nice, quiet crossbow), I've been collecting tools that would be needed to build shelter and gather food (who's laughing at all my fishing rods now?!).

ericendtimes · 2022-12-22T17:36:05Z

Artex Way to go Artex.

koyaanisqatsi · 2022-12-22T17:45:09Z

Artex I couldn't agree more. HOA''s are a nightmare.

arrow · 2022-12-22T13:31:38Z

Ha! You go Canaduh.

"The rate of death per person by firearm is far lower than in the US, which has more lax gun laws." Edit: "The rate of death per person by firearm" - firearms are inanimate... they do not kill people of their own accord. My rifle(s) have never "assaulted" anyone. Truth of the matter is the so-called gun laws that are referred to, are in fact no laws, but policies and are of no force and effect.

US. SUPREME COURT DECISION - The common law is the real law, the Supreme Law of the land, the code, rules, regulations, policy and statutes are “not the law” , [Self v. Rhay, 61 Wn (2d) 261]

SHALL NOT be infringed. Never give up your God-given right to defend yourself and your family. (((Their))) claims that you are a threat to (((their))) government, which is a business... a legal fiction, equates to dot gov exercising authority that does not exist. The representatives/senators/ministers are SERVANTS and have a sacred responsibility to protect YOU. (((Their))) commercial policies and/or regulations directly interfere with that sacred fiduciary duty.

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

life · 2022-12-22T14:29:21Z

arrow the NYP and other media outlets will not be told by Toronto law enforcement that, in all likely hood, the perp was not white, likely male and a convicted criminal, in possession of an illegally obtained sidearm... if i'm mistaken then i'll say so.

ReRan · 2022-12-22T14:12:50Z

A group of young girls stabbed a man to death this week in TO. Obviously, knives must be banned.

HalfCuban8 · 2022-12-22T23:04:04Z

The guy was 76 and the condo board was taking him to court to force him to sell. They bullied him constantly. He had tried for three years to get the noise from the h vac units reduced. His cubicle was right below.

When you have nothing to lose, you Lose It!

Spur · 2022-12-23T06:34:25Z

76 and at the end of his 'give a shit level'. OK, die you POSs and he will accept the consequences. After all Canada has voluntary euthanasia, so why not accept it. Death by cop, it works.

azigzagidiot · 2022-12-23T18:29:19Z

dailymail. co.uk [Link]

"Deranged Canadian man, 73, killed 3 men and 2 women with ‘semi-automatic handgun’ before being shot dead by cops at apartment complex after five-year feud with condo board...

Francesco Villi, 73, had filed a multi-million-dollar lawsuit against the building's company claiming electromagnetic waves were making him sick .

Sounds like Aaron Alexis

..

The senior had brought a case against the condominium corporation, claiming that five named defendants caused him ‘torment and torture’ for over five years."

BEWARE

This system in operation, whether it's for retaliation or surveillance, is often misinterpreted as being effectuated locally, as in "Oh! It's my neighbor!". View here 7'28" Odysee video noting the ubiquitous ELF bubble "accidentally" generated around Earth: [Link] Here is a 25'54" video that is a good synopsis, demonstrating a 2-way communication/surveillance system: [Link]
It's also possible it is your neighbor. Sure seems like in America a bunch of people are on the dole or getting $oro$$ money to service, uh, "national security"; but more like subversion of sovereignty. It's likely the same in Canada, but given the reality of everyone having this earwig chattering at them it makes it difficult to figure what is what and who's idea was whose.

Little doubt an ongoing motive is to create violent incidents which are cynically turned towards the push for disarming the public. Try to keep cool.. Forewarned is forearmed.

Artex · 2022-12-23T18:40:40Z

azigzagidiot Your info makes the guy sound crazy, and I think you're illustrating that it's no accident. "EM Waves" mean different things to different people. To me that means many things, but that also includes that frequency you could hear when someone had a CRT TV or monitor turned on. When I was a kid I could hear someone turn on a TV if I was standing on their porch, not because of volume or a click, but because of that high frequency it gives off. Someone else wrote that he had been in a fight over the location and noise from HVAC. Parts of those systems also produce that frequency noise. They were trying to get him evicted, which is not a comfortable position to be in when you own part of a shared living space. It creates a division between the people living there. It creates an environment where those with power will bend the rules to facilitate a faster resolution.

The bits and pieces coming out separately paint a picture to me of a man who had noise complaints, which the board twisted into a "Better Call Saul" type of insane "allergy to EM waves" scenario and didn't treat their neighbor seriously or like a human at all, which pushed someone in the winter of their life to say "fuck it, maybe they all need to learn the hard way. if I'm homeless, I might as well be dead at my age."

Expect to hear stories of senior citizens scheduling their euthanasia appointments only to murder the doctors coming to administer the drugs, to make a loud and clear point.

azigzagidiot · 2022-12-23T19:34:49Z

Artex Your info makes the guy sound crazy, and I think you're illustrating that it's no accident. "EM Waves" mean different things to different people. To me that means many things, but that also includes that frequency you could hear when someone had a CRT TV or monitor turned on. When I was a kid I could hear someone turn on a TV if I was standing on their porch, not because of volume or a click, but because of that high frequency it gives off. Someone else wrote that he had been in a fight over the location and noise from HVAC. Parts of those systems also produce that frequency noise. They were trying to get him evicted, which is not a comfortable position to be in when you own part of a shared living space. It creates a division between the people living there. It creates an environment where those with power will bend the rules to facilitate a faster resolution.

Wiki intro. on Mains hum:

Mains hum, electric hum, cycle hum, or power line hum is a sound associated with alternating current which is twice the frequency of the mains electricity. The fundamental frequency of this sound is usually double that of fundamental 50/60 Hz, i.e. 100/120 Hz, depending on the local power-line frequency. The sound often has heavy harmonic content above 50/60 Hz. Because of the presence of mains current in mains-powered audio equipment as well as ubiquitous AC electromagnetic fields from nearby appliances and wiring, 50/60 Hz electrical noise can get into audio systems, and is heard as mains hum from their speakers. Mains hum may also be heard coming from powerful electric power grid equipment such as utility transformers, caused by mechanical vibrations induced by magnetostriction in magnetic core. Onboard aircraft (or spacecraft) the frequency heard is often higher pitched, due to the use of 400 Hz AC power in these settings because 400 Hz transformers are much smaller and lighter.

In this instance specifically I'm talking about extremely low frequency waves, wavelength on the order of 10,000-100,000km; the diameter of Earth is approx. 12,750km. The HVAC unit there is likely creating both electrical hum and noise from mechanical vibrations. The system apparently can make use of auto gain control, and so is amplified in an environment by riding on noise.

Automatic gain control (AGC) is a closed-loop feedback regulating circuit in an amplifier or chain of amplifiers, the purpose of which is to maintain a suitable signal amplitude at its output, despite variation of the signal amplitude at the input. The average or peak output signal level is used to dynamically adjust the gain of the amplifiers, enabling the circuit to work satisfactorily with a greater range of input signal levels. It is used in most radio receivers to equalize the average volume (loudness) of different radio stations due to differences in received signal strength, as well as variations in a single station's radio signal due to fading. Without AGC the sound emitted from an AM radio receiver would vary to an extreme extent from a weak to a strong signal; the AGC effectively reduces the volume if the signal is strong and raises it when it is weaker. In a typical receiver the AGC feedback control signal is usually taken from the detector stage and applied to control the gain of the IF or RF amplifier stages.

There are examples of it being audible at surface level in audio recordings. Parsing apart the audio, the speaking lacks human voice formants and is likely fabricated sine-wave speech. How, on Earth, it is able to produce running commentary and simultaneously monitor and interact over vast areas implies a super computer system AI.

The bits and pieces coming out separately paint a picture to me of a man who had noise complaints, which the board twisted into a "Better Call Saul" type of insane "allergy to EM waves" scenario and didn't treat their neighbor seriously or like a human at all, which pushed someone in the winter of their life to say "fuck it, maybe they all need to learn the hard way. if I'm homeless, I might as well be dead at my age."

If anything the info makes me sound crazy trying to explain it, and what I'm trying to illustrate is that it's plausible the guy was driven insane by long term exposure. As for allergy to EM waves, it's more like sun exposure than acute allergy, where radiation illness over time compounds health issues. As for Murray(iirc), that is a good example of lampooning something in pop culture that is legitimate, as for example when Jimmy spoofs him and brings in a phone but Murr can't sense it; as though people with EM hypersensitivity ought to be able to detect when Wifi is turned on.

Artex · 2022-12-23T20:04:31Z

azigzagidiot Thanks for the explanation! I'm genuinely intrigued. I have always heard a high frequency tone in the background since I was a small child. I lacked the vocabulary to describe in when I first heard it, and it's always there, and sometimes in my life it has started to drive me nutty, but I'm very good at ignoring it. As an adult I'd considered it was tinnitus, but then I remembered it has always been there. And I've had temporary hearing damage from loud concerts, and this tone is a completely different kind of ringing from tinnitus. Using an online tone generator, the tone I hear is somewhere between 11.5k and 12k Hz.

I personally can't tell when wifi is turned on. Perhaps if I were in a Faraday cage inside an anechoic chamber... I bet I could. I can hear a great many frequencies given off by... things, when it's otherwise quiet.

It was Chuck, and that series is one of my favorites for the use of the dynamic between Jimmy and Chuck that painted Jimmy with a little bit of empathy and Chuck without it. They were both selfish, terrible, flawed humans with a teeny sparkle of divinity.

ReRan · 2022-12-23T20:11:18Z

Artex "And I've had temporary hearing damage from loud concerts,"

I think constant noise like that would drive me insane. I have had heart pain from loud noise and thumping base at concerts.

Artex · 2022-12-23T20:14:47Z

ReRan These days if I go to a concert, I wear hearing protection. If someone hadn't suggested it, I simply could not take it anymore. I also stay well back from the stage and absolutely avoid the area directly in front of the main speakers.

ReRan · 2022-12-24T00:59:11Z

Artex Yes, well away from the speakers. Although I rarely go to concerts these days.

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