High Strangeness
Now, a new tranche of documents released by the DIA to Motherboard based on a FOIA request filed four years ago shows, in detail, the exotic and occasionally downright weird research priorities of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP), an at-times overlapping program whose existence has been known about for several years. Some of these documents were also released several weeks ago to John Greenewald at the Black Vault; others have been circulating on Reddit for the past several weeks, indicating that the DIA has recently released a backlog of very old FOIA requests. The Sun also published some details about some of the documents, which it also obtained via FOIA, earlier this month. (AATIP and AAWSAP appear to have been, in practice, almost interchangeable; a DIA spokesperson previously told Greenewald, "[AATIP] was the name of the overall program. [AAWSAP] was the name of the contract that DIA awarded for the production of technical reports under AATIP.")
The nearly 1,600 pages of documents released to Motherboard are a mix of scientific research, contracts, presentations, briefings, and memos related to the program; there are also many documents written for or by former Senator Harry Reid, who was responsible for the creation of the program, that detail meetings about AATIP or AAWSAP, argue for or against certain research or contracts, and the like. In many cases, documents prepared for the DIA about the theoretical applications of certain technologies were prepared by a person or entity whose name is redacted. Motherboard is publishing the full scope of what we received for transparency and to aid researchers and other journalists. Those documents are available here.
The documents make clear that the AAWSAP was focused on studying the defense and military capabilities of a variety of exotic speculative technologies, including invisibility cloaking, traversable wormholes, stargates, negative energy, antigravity, high frequency gravitational wave communications, and an (obviously) never-carried out proposal to tunnel a hole through the moon using nuclear explosions. ("Gravity is the bane of aerospace transportation," one DIA reference document reads.) In the coming weeks, Motherboard will examine a few of these proposals in detail.
None of these technologies ever seem to have gotten remotely close to being a reality, as far as we know. The documents included in the FOIA are fascinating for two reasons: The first is that the research is, well, pretty weird, and the other is that AATIP and AAWSAP weren't doing much of that research in-house. Both programs relied in large part on contract research conducted by an arm of a private company, Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Studies (BAASS), owned by eccentric hotel magnate Robert Bigelow. (BAASS is now defunct, but Bigelow Aerospace is still operational.)
Bigelow was a personal friend of Reid and lobbied for the creation of the AATIP program. He owned the infamous Skinwalker Ranch, a location said by some UFO enthusiasts to be a hotbed of paranormal activity and others to be a hotbed of a particular kind of hot air, for about 10 years. Bigelow is also known for having a keen interest in life after death. Just six months after BAASS was created, according to Popular Mechanics, Reid created funding for AATIP and drafted the AAWSAP contract. BAASS was the sole bidder for the contract and was awarded $10 million for the first year.
The documents raise further questions- which have already been swirling for years - about the government's allocation of millions of dollars to a set of programs that seem to have ultimately accounted to very little, at least publicly. Titles of 38 research projects covered under the AAWASAP were released in 2019, following a FOIA request filed by Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists' Project on Government Secrecy. (Correction, 5:40 p.m. EST: After publication, Jeremy Corbell, a UFO filmmaker, pointed out that George Knapp was the first person to publish a list of 37 of these areas of study, in July 2018. Knapp obtained it, he reported, from physicist Hal Puthoff, who previously worked for BAASS. The DIA formally released the full 38-item list in 2019 in response to Aftergood's FOIA.)
Aftergood, too, was critical of aspects of the program, telling Popular Mechanics: "The whole contracting process for this program was irregular from start to finish. [The AAWSAP contract] sounds like it was a good deal for the contractor. But it would be hard to argue that either the military or the public got their money's worth."
But what was released to Motherboard this week is a far more in-depth series of records, giving status updates on various projects and outlining why, precisely, the U.S. government was so interested in things like invisibility cloaks. They also reveal the enormous amount of effort former Reid put into championing the AATIP and AAWSAP, and into trying to keep the work they did classified. (Reid died in December 2021.)
In 2020, Reid said that what had publicly been released to that point "only scratched the surface" of what the Pentagon knows about UFOs and advanced technology and told Motherboard that he believed (at the time) that far more information should be released publicly.
This wasn't always the case, however; the documents released to Motherboard also show Reid pushed at one time to keep AATIP highly classified. In a 2009 letter to then-Secretary of Defense William Lynn III, Reid urged Lynn to make large portions of AATIP a Restricted Special Access Program (SAP) — a step above how normal classified documents are handled.
"Given the current rate of success, the continued study of these subjects will likely lead to technology advancements that in the immediate near-term will require extraordinary protection," Reid wrote. (A memo prepared for the Secretary of Defense by James Clapper Jr., who would go on to become Director of National Intelligence, recommended against giving the program a SAP classification.)
Reid also made sweeping promises about what AATIP could do for the United States.
"Ultimately, the results of AATIP will not only benefit the U.S. Government, but I believe will directly benefit DoD in ways not yet imagined," he wrote. "The technological insight and capability gained will provide the U.S. with a distinct advantage over any foreign threats and allow the U.S. to maintain its preeminence as a world leader."
It seems clear that even more documents about these two linked, and deeply weird, programs will be forthcoming. In early March, for instance, Greenewald at the Black Vault learned that the Barack Obama Presidential Library is in possession of thousands of pages of materials, although those could take years to be released.
Reader Comments
Plus if we were (big if) warned off the moon then I can’t imagine they’d take kindly to that plan.
To quote Han Solo: "That's no moon, it's a space station!"
Another point, is that the moon rang like a bell for over an hour when they crashed that lander(?) into the surface. If that’s the case then there’ll be no tunnel through the middle either.
So many questions… so many conspiracies… and not enough time!
not that they did in this article --but if they reveal information about different things that they know about but it's not reported on the news.
How much in news; how much will people in the mainstream or just society in general be open to these phenomena.
The answer is unless it's reported in the mainstream media, there's a large segment of the population that doesn't give a s***
To complicate matters, UFOs are such a handy psy-op tool, that anything disclosed is likely to be either disinformation or a complete fabrication depending on the circumstances.
But it never hurts to talk, and I think it would be really helpful if people just started talking about it. and talking a lot.
because there's something about communication between people that really really facilitates a more comfortable environment for dealing with things that are strange or unusual.
Obviously we went through them and back again seven times without any adverse effects as the radiation is variable not constant. Oh, I forgot, the Apollo missions were a hoax and the Earth is flat..... jeez, I give up.
You know that people get shit wrong don’t you? So why the anger? Pointless.
And you’re correct, he did clarify
The radiation belts of the Earth do, indeed, pose important constraints on the safety of human space flight.
The very energetic (tens to hundreds of MeV) protons in the inner radiation belt are the most dangerous and most difficult to shield against. Specifically, prolonged flights (i.e., ones of many months’ duration) of humans or other animals in orbits about the Earth must be conducted at altitudes less than about 250 miles in order to avoid significant radiation exposure.
A person in the cabin of a space shuttle in a circular equatorial orbit in the most intense region of the inner radiation belt, at an altitude of about 1000 miles, would be subjected to a fatal dosage of radiation in about one week.
However, the outbound and inbound trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft cut through the outer portions of the inner belt and because of their high speed spent only about 15 minutes in traversing the region and less than 2 hours in traversing the much less penetrating radiation in the outer radiation belt. The resulting radiation exposure for the round trip was less than 1% of a fatal dosage – a very minor risk among the far greater other risks of such flights. I made such estimates in the early 1960s and so informed NASA engineers who were planning the Apollo flights. These estimates are still reliable.
Do you feel better now? I’m SOOO sorry for hurting your vastly superior intelligence.
You’ll be pleased to know I now have all 11 works by Van Allen on order just so I’m able to mention his name here in the digital public.
If you haven't read Professor James Van Allen's books then please shut up until you have.
I trust you’ve read all 11? If not then why don’t you follow your own advice and kindly shut up.
Thanks for your delightfully bitchy comment.
:lol:
They say many decisions both political and business are done on a golf course.
Imagine the all the terror and violence of an inner city, as well the blood, sweat, and tears of hard working people-just trying to survive amidst the bustle, frenetic energy, and dreary,drab, sometimes ugliness of a city.
Now look to this golf course, an oasis perhaps amidst the periphery of the city,and surrounded by nature.
I don't know, it's not for me.
It's a very scary world out there with so much craziness. There are such terrible things going on.
I have to be careful sometimes because I speak sometimes without thinking, as if I can avoid fear rather than just be aware of it.
It's a very scary world out there with so much craziness. There are such terrible things going on.
And we ain’t seen nothing yet…
I have to be careful sometimes because I speak sometimes without thinkingIt’s ok Nathan, I’m sure we all have the same at some points. Hang tough brother 👊
And for true friends.
I know things will get hairy but I don't need much, especially when I do things right.
Also 😊
Stay positive homey 🙃
If you realize the Bird Navy Operation Highjump to Antarctica ended in Chile with Bird saying the next war will be airships that fly from pole to pole at tremendous speed in 1947, then the Roswell saucer crash in 1947, followed by the National Security Act that created the CIA and Dept of Defense, then you know that the government did not want to divulge anything about extraterrestrials. Why not?
Saucer technology? Gravity? Travel in space without suffering damage? Portals? Intelligent sentient life? ET beings are malevolent, benevolent, both? World history? World Civilization and religion?
I strongly recommend, if you aren't familiar with him, subscribing to YT channel "Lost Battlefields with Tino Struckmann". Although he's not focused on the more esoteric stuff like saucers, he's a hands-on researcher who takes you to some incredible locations, goes into their backgrounds, and has covered Die Glocke and the Nazi secret nuclear development. You'll be floored by what he's found, I guarantee it!
I've had a few chats with him about about Viktor Schauberger (He met and interviewed his son) and Joseph Pharrell (An occasional guest on his show).
As you indicate, there are a LOT of questions floating around. And so the pentagon releases a couple of easily debunked bits of gun-camera footage and calls it "disclosure"? And the MSM goes crazy over it and there's a hearing? And then NASA gets in on the act?
I've been around the UFO game long enough to know the aroma of Ufological bullshit when I smell it! We're being distracted all over again.
It's pretty compelling testimony .
Look at space module and tell me it went to the moon.
Cryin' on crutch It's got gold tinfoil.
Maybe there's insight in fakery and It's taken too far sometimes.
As for the lunar module, yes, it went to the moon. The "gold tinfoil" (actually it's an aluminum alloy substrate) lander base section is still there. If it wasn't flown there, how did it get there?
I suggest you take a visit to a laser-equipped observatory and get them to shine the laser off the target mirrors that the Apollo missions left on the lunar surface. Yes I've had firsthand experience via the Canterbury U iversity ring Laser project. If such evidence is part of the conspiracy then it's the mother-of-all conspiracies involving millions of participants over decades, including myself. To what end? Why fake the moon landings when it would be logistically easier and cheaper to just go there ?
A fake movie taking thousands of film-hours and many millions of dollars worth of special effects and props AND real actual rocket launches witnessed by thousands (not to mention a film crew of thousands all sworn to eternal secrecy and paid with no traceability of funding) would drain the US economy. Multi million dollar blockbuster movies have to make a profit.
While there is no clear motive for faking a moon landing, there is plenty of motivation from certain sources to make you think it never happened.
Yes I will.
As for the motive, we'll let's say it was logistically impossible to go to the moon with the tech available to public witness.
Think about it, back then they couldn't just borrow Russian engines.
Not saying the launches weren't real. I am saying 100 million dollars isn't that much money, far more is spent on propaganda than that.
Also I wouldn't say plenty of motivation as it's a small segment of the population that question the narrative. But if it's so important then why?
Like you, I don't know, but I'm just keeping an open mind.
But that is exactly what they are doing with their 88 pages NDAs and silencing anybody, threatening people and their families.
The greatest evidence of the faked Moon landings is that if it was soo easy to go to the Moon with 50 year old cheap technology, why are there not Moon cities by now with US spaceships zipping over frequently by now? Surely the USA and NASA managed to develop one or two new technologies since? Or is science progressing backward?
You argue for a Ford 1971 Torino, how well for a car tech it was accomplished, how amazing those reflective corner cube mirrors left by NASA and the Russian Lunokhod rovers are so your university can shine there all that amazing laser beams.. Which laser beams give back a weak signal with the scientists theorizing some Moon dust obscuring those mirrors and they are using the LRO orbiting the Moon to improve the light feedback of the experiment. Yet mighty LRO did not even manage to make high resolution images of the alleged landing site ever since.. This is not a photo [Link] its a ridicule.
All USA could achieve now are puny laser beams reflection experiments? How pathetic is that??!
So NO new cars were built since the Ford 1971 Torino on Earth then? Where are the Moon-Jumpers Series of space craft that can make it to the Moon in record time and carry more and more record amount of crew to the Moon? Since it was so possible to make those landings 50+ years ago?
Has technological development stopped on Earth? Is it because all the Moon cameras production capacity are used up by the iPhones factories now, that we cannot build Moon-faring spaceships??
NASA should have by now high-resolution Moon TV series and Moon Rover Races organized [Link] [Link] so billions of people could bet and make money, watching how successfully international Moon Remote Drivers piloting these Moon Race Rovers [Link] to the finish lines during the MOON VERSION EQUIVALENT of 1999-2022 Top 10 Amazing Monster Truck Madness Show Events In USA and World-Wide? Aren't Americans so exceptional that by now they must have had the opportunity to build giant Moon Monster Rover Trucks to madly race around the craters on the Moon - with billions watching the races on Earth - just for kicks and adrenaline and billions of dollars of profit made from bets and sponsors? Where is the Moon SuperBowl by now?? If it was that very much undeniably possible to fly there?? [Link]
USA must have felt the need for Über Superiority over Russia in the last 100 years, no? Where is all that evident in multiple USA Moon bases by now, declaring Moon a USA Space Territory for Mining and absolute supremacy over the Russians by now? If it was soo possible to fly over to the Moon?
Or has space tech regressed since then? If I recall, many new cars were built after the Ford 1971 Torino. Perhaps the brains of USA Space scientists have shrunk since 1971 and perhaps the new supercomputers and Quantum computers simply cannot cope with the immense task of calculating the technological processes needed to build new Moon-faring ships?
Those 1969-71 computers must have been so Über Advanced that they completely surpass the new supercomputers of 2022 by now??
Man, that 1969 technological spunk of the USA was so super-ahead of todays puny and clearly regressed "technology" that they never attempted any Moon base or manned missions since 50+ years.... Think about it!!!
Are you still using an 1969 model phone?
Your attempt to convince otherwise only goes to cement the belief that, yes they would go to such lengths as to convince humanity they'd actually landed on the moon.
What JFK Truth said three months ago is so good and it's a long post and required reading.
I read it again and again and again.
There was a battle in heaven and in that battle are the answer for; to bring change in this fallen state.
Then ask yourself questions. Would our National Security secrecy allow for the creation by any private party of zero point energy, anti-gravity, travel through portals? What would it mean to human history, civilization, religion if sentient beings from other galaxies were visiting the earth for millenia? There is a reason this narrative has been controlled, and why the information is not available to humanity.
If aliens are visiting the Earth and have been for millennia, then they'd hardly stoop to doing deals with the tribal leaders of our backwards little planet. They'd keep themselves hidden or reveals themselves as they please and do whatever they want with impunity.
However, it might be a great psychological warfare tactic by intelligence agencies to encourage certain sectors of the population to believe that ETs and supr-exotic technologies are being covered up.
Good discussion all!
We in our present stated of diluted, retold, remade history have really and absolutely no clue as to what the world was truly like, prior to the flood. Hints and myths we are told, just like they are doing now about disclosure.
I too, am a UFO buff and have read enough about it, that I'm not finding anything new, just old retreaded stories. If I hear about Roswell one more time, my head is going to explode.
Here is how I see it or how I've reconciled it in my mind, that fits my world view.
Cognitive Dissonance is a big part of the current dilemma. How so?
You either believe in God and Satan (or whatever name he goes by, or you do not.
If you do not, then given todays world environment and "UFO's" , they can only be from one place, another planet/world.
The greatest tricked the Devil has played on us all, is to make us believe he never existed or exists. Same force at play to make us believe Christ never existed.
For those of us who believe in God, Christ and Satan, we are told they can only be from one place, another planet/world.
What do we know about them. Well, we know they lie all the time. How so, they have been telling us for years they are from this star system or that star system, no no no, this star system. They take you from your house, car, street whatever and then tell you they come in peace, you are made to forget that you've been poked prodded, deseminated or inseminated. Was it a peaceful process that captured and abused you? Most importantly why you and not a world leader?
Now here is my biased view. If you don't believe in God and Satan, then basically you are left to believe the many possibilities of future SciFi. All don't include God in their futures. So these creatures can only be space aliens or interdimensional space aliens. Pretty bleak outlook. That these lying, cheating, stealing creatures, who come in peace are going to "help us" build a better world. Give us access to their technology and the world will be a better place.
A used car salesman can give any of us a better pitch than that type of peg to hang your hat on.
If you do believe in Christ, God and Satan, Demons, etc then you need to reconcile how this fits our current world view. Lets be honest, we have no clue about what exactly it was like living here, prior to the flood. All we know are bits and pieces and a lot of "myths" that contain a lot of truths, if we can properly interpret them. Did they have cars back then, possibly, planes possibly, computers, possibly. We do not know.
What we do know, is there was a fight in heaven first, then the fallen came to earth and corrupted it and the people. The group that mated with the daughters of Adam have been thrown into a pit, awaiting judgement. Satan, apparently was not a part of that group and is free to come and go. God gave us dominion over the earth, we then ceded that dominion to Satan, when we ate the fruit. Earth is his dominion, not ours. The spawn created by the cross breeding, created (unclean) spirits, not of God, when these giants died, their parents from heaven were imprisoned in a pit and the spirits went to the either (to become the demons of today). So there is a group of fallen angels, who were never imprisoned plus the ones who came down to spread the different languages who have always been here. Freely zipping around this earth. I also believe those first fallen ones have been released from their chains for a time, prior to judgment. They never left.
20th century, man learns how to fly and suddenly we have "UFO's" from "another planet" visiting us. Coincidence? Not. There are lots of reports of these flying craft throughout history, if you can find read see the painting, before the PTB hide them or destroy them. Why?
Who made any Government in charge of UFO's. Right, they did themselves. They Hijacked what people were reporting and have been since the beginning of their UFO narrative.
They never came from another planet, they came from heaven. God gave us dominion over the earth, which we ceded. God never ever said he gave us dominion over the "space" above? Never mentioned it. Funny how the atheist scientists came to name the Heavens above "Space". Funny how they are trying to get to "Space", seemingly an anti-Christian view of heaven. Are not Christians trying to get into heaven? Coincidence? Did not Nimrod try to build a tower into heaven/space to kill God? A similar goal of Satan?
And herein is where I find we have Cognitive Dissonance happening. Isn't it obvious, that the UFO aliens are the fallen angels?
Here are some things, that made me finally realize that:
1) Learning that the Greek Myths we are taught in school in North America and other European countries is actually taught as history in Greece.
2) The Greeks translated the Bible from Hebrew into Greek
3) Demons/spirits are real. I've had my experiences with their presence, hence I know they are a reality, not all of us can discern.
4) The stories (myths) of old have similar abduction stories.
5) Aliens message to us is anti-Christian in nature
6) Mufon researcher Joe Jordan who realized that when abductees call on the name of Jesus Christ, their abductions ended "instantaneously".
Most people in the world today have some kind of Christian upbringing (not much really in the last 30 years, but definitely prior to the last 30). They are stuck between the 2 worlds, one of the SciFi future (all bleak) and the Christian background. Everything the aliens do, is a contradiction to the good of the bible, and they don't like that one name being brought up, why?
Ever since I've come to the conclusion that UFO/aliens are the Fallen Angels, and ever since I've realized that we are truly fighting a spiritual war, I no longer have a need, nor care about "government disclosure". I see it for what it is. It's a game for them to keep those in a CD state. The answer/"secret" is right in front of your eyes. Like answers to some of the toughest questions out there, the answers are right in front of you. Just like this whole scamdemic, the answers were there, right in front of you, the majority just chose to ignore it, in favour of more "current news".
Another big tip off for me. Christ went to the Dessert, to be tested by Satan. Roswell, basically a desert area. Skin Walker Ranch, more of a desert area than lush grasslands. Jack Parsons, Ron Hubbard, went to the desert to perform a ritual, isn't that area now area 51? Isn't there UFO activity around area 51? Sin City (Vegas) is in the desert. Who resides in the desert? Satan. Please don't counter about such and such a city is a desert city, I know, but those were founded when the area was not a desert. If you want to meet the Devil, just go for a long walk in the desert and look for him, he will show up, if you ask him to.
Great conversation!
Now I am learning to.
Because mind control is a state that depends on fear/shock to impart demonic thoughts and lies, abduction/programming begins in childhood, before the mind is fully formed.
The conditional love of adulthood is then paralyzed, looking for unconditional love in earthly pursuits rather than the divine mind of god.
Without Christ, an awareness of gnosis in culture, what is to protect one.
Well we all harken , at least those with sanity, to something good, something beautiful, something that is beyond this devils playground which is not in harmony with the previous dominion over the earth which we or many ceded
The faith in Christ brings humanity together. The battle ceded circles back to this faith:
And permeates all that is good.
The faith in Christ brings humanity together. The battle ceded circles back to this faith: And permeates all that is good.I believe a lot of people are starting to circle back. Christ takes all who believe, all walks. While I was reading up on DMT, by the first doctor in the USA to be authorized to study these kinds of drugs after a long moratorium, I learned that the Dr./Author was Jewish and did not like it. He practiced Buddhism for most 20-30 years, and eventually found that the principles of Christianity, best gel with the world and his experiences. He observed those that did have religious experiences during his DMT trials, were also having Christian like experiences while in the DMT state.
I saw an article last year, about a famous porn star, who left the industry after 30 yrs. Said it was evil, found Christianity. Apparently several others have also gone this route. When I was younger, my friends and I use to joke about famous drug addicts. They fall hard, go to rehab and find Christianity. Devote Muslims, who have had near death experiences, saw the error of their ways and have switch to Christianity. I find the famous people who flout the fact the are Christian, to me really are not Christian, they are fake Christians as they are more about promoting the fact that they are Christian than Christianity.
My journey reading about history recent and ancient, kept me circling back to Christianity. The closest thing I read to Christianity was Hermetic Texts. Although some passages are very Christian in nature, there is a strange divergence that never sat well with me.
Faith in Christ is much much better than the shallowness of faith in Satan's teachings.
For instance I encounter it as a teen by understanding harmonies of colors, kind of like the chords in music. Though for me at the time it was secular and all that.
I'm not known as an artist because I'm done with that, but it helps me privately. So I feel art should be closely associated with religion and Christian values.
This has helped me understand the source.
Thank you for the conversation JTF Truth (I tended to read your name as JFK Truth.)!
JTF = Just The Full Truth. or Just the Frank Truth or Just the Fcuking Truth or Just Truth For Truth, take your pick
I hear you on Roswell. 90% of the Roswell story is misdirection and misinformation (mostly orchestrated by William Moore, who eventually 'fessed as a government agent, and Richard Doty, who was the subject of the excellent documentary "Mirage Men": look it up if you haven't seen it).
I have a prosaic take on the Temptation of Christ episode. I believe it was a formal ritual. "The Wilderness" is known to have been Essene code for the fortress community dwelling at Qumran. "Satan" in the story is actually described as "The Tempter", probably a hierophant.
I've written a number of blogs over the years that either directly or indirectly tackle the subject of Watchers as physical beings that have passed into mythology and the association with "serpents" that are either feathered or cloaked in feathers and can walk and talk. I've also approached the possible connection to the UFO and ET subject. Space travellers, time travellers, dimensional travellers and non-physical entities all hold equal fascination for me.
And yes, I too have had encounters with "supernatural" entities both good and bad. I try to avoid contact with either and keep my mental doors locked and bolted. Psychic "talent" runs in the family but I don't want it.
In a sense, i think God and the Devil are inside us permanently and we decide who rules over us in our day to day decisions, but as God gave us free will, we also in a sense rule over them...or grant them power to rule us in our times of weakness.
Currently generating back to back M-class flares, yes they have their bunkers but they'll be toasted like the rest of us
Introductory quote: “What is space? An empty stage where the physical world of matter acts out its drama? An equal participant that both provides background and has a life of its own? Or the primary reality of which matter is a secondary manifestation? Views on this question have evolved, and several times have changed radically, over the history of science. Today the third view is triumphant.”
Awfully pleased they didn't try nuking a tunnel through the moon though. I should imagine accidental alterations to the lunar orbit would have an unfavorable effect on Earth.