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© Agence France-Presse / Alastair PikeMueller hearing live
Former special counsel Robert Mueller told a House Judiciary Committee hearing that his two-year investigation has found "insufficient evidence of the president's culpability" in conspiring with Russians in 2016.
In a hearing on Wednesday that saw Democrats and Republicans grill Mueller along party lines, Georgia Republican Rep. Doug Collins, the committee's ranking Republican, asked Mueller to verify that his investigation had been a thorough one, and then pressed the former prosecutor on his findings.
Mueller stuck to the conclusion of his report, stating that his team had found insufficient evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and reiterated that nobody within Trump's campaign team aided so-called Russian election interference efforts.
Questioning Mueller prior to Collins, Committee Chairman Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-New York) set the Democrats' tone, focusing on the incidents of potential obstruction outlined in the second half of Mueller's 440-page report. Though Nadler pressed Mueller to admit that he could have charged Trump with obstruction if he so wished, Mueller remained taciturn, repeatedly stating that the decision not to make a formal decision on obstruction was informed by a long-standing Justice Department policy not to charge a sitting president with a crime.
Mueller did, however, confirm that Trump could possibly be indicted for obstruction after he leaves office.
Speaking to CNN before the hearing, Nadler said that he hoped Mueller would speak beyond the confines of his report, released in April. Mueller had stated in a Justice Department letter that he would not, but Nadler told the network that "
he does not have to comply with that letter. He doesn't work for them. And that letter asks things that are beyond the power of the agency to ask even if he still worked for them."Wednesday's Judiciary Committee hearing is the first of two sessions on the hill for the former special counsel. Mueller is also scheduled to answer questions from the House Intelligence Committee in the afternoon.
Comment: Republicans
hammered away at the perceived legal deviations in Mueller Report:
To Texas Republican John Ratcliffe, Mueller had no legal basis to list potential crimes without bringing charges, and no right to say that Trump was not exonerated, as the former investigator told committee chairman Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-New York) earlier.
"It's not in special counsel regulations...it's not in the principles of federal prosecution," Ratcliffe said, "because, respectfully, it was not the special counsel's job to conclusively determine Donald Trump's innocence or exonerate him."
"It clearly says 'write a report about decisions reached.' Nowhere in here does it say 'write a report about decisions that weren't reached,'" Ratcliffe thundered. "You wrote 180 pages about decisions that weren't reached, about potential crimes that weren't charged or decided!"
By doing so, Ratcliffe concluded "you managed to violate every principle and the most sacred of traditions about prosecutors not offering extra-prosecutorial analysis about potential crimes."
In keeping with his reputation as a man of few words, Mueller remained mostly silent during Ratcliffe's grilling.
Mueller threw a bone to the Democrats,
complaining that Trump wanted to fire him, though he never did:
Former Special Counsel Robert Mueller told a House Judiciary Committee hearing that President Donald Trump wanted him fired once his investigation shifted towards alleged obstruction of justice.
Testifying before the committee on Wednesday, Mueller declined to tell Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Florida) why exactly Trump wanted him sacked, but pointed to his report which said "substantial evidence indicates" that Trump's efforts to remove him were connected with the obstruction investigation.
"That's what it says in the report, yes. I stand by the report," Mueller told Deutch
During the hearing, Democrats pressed Mueller to reveal more on the behind-the-scenes actions Trump was allegedly taking to boot Mueller from the investigation, including his supposed 2017 instruction to former White House Counsel Don McGahn to fire the special counsel. Trump denied telling McGahn to fire Mueller, calling the story a product of the "fake news media."
Trump, in the meantime, continued to
slam the Mueller investigation and called for investigating
them:
The president launched the attack in a string of tweets on Wednesday morning.
"Why didn't Robert Mueller & his band of 18 Angry Democrats spend any time investigating Crooked Hillary Clinton, Lyin' & Leakin' James Comey, Lisa Page and her Psycho lover, Peter [Strzok], Andy McCabe, the beautiful Ohr family, Fusion GPS, and many more, including HIMSELF...?" President Trump said, referring to a series of high profile figures in Mueller's Russia collusion investigation.
"Democrats and others can illegally fabricate a crime, try pinning it on a very innocent President, and when he fights back ... they call It Obstruction? Wrong!" the president continued, adding "Why didn't Robert Mueller investigate the investigators?"
President Trump also said he did not believe that Mueller's lawyer should be allowed to assist him with his congressional testimony, stating"It was NEVER agreed that Robert Mueller could use one of his many Democrat Never Trumper lawyers to sit next to him and help him with his answers."
Mueller looked tired and even confused during his testimony, leaving some on social media speculating that he did not actually write the report. It was also noted that his answers were far more sharp and clear when answering questions posed by Democrats, as opposed to Republican committee members. His standard answer to many questions was "I direct you to the report.", when wanting to avoid the question.
UPDATES: Thursday 25th July @ 15:32RT
reports how Mueller's sluggish testimony that was supposed to bring new light to the apparent Russiagate drama quickly became a "disaster" for the Democrats:
Mueller was not the clear and confident prosecutor Democrats had been expecting, but instead struggled to answer questions and even forgot some key details from his report into disproven "collusion" between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia.
While Mueller reiterated that his investigation "did not establish" collusion, he also contradicted Trump's claims that his final report amounted to a "total exoneration." Yet, despite repeated prodding, Mueller didn't offer Democrats any new information or analysis and didn't seem able to easily rebuff attacks from Republicans.
One Republican tweeter thanked the Democratic party for having "destroyed Mueller's credibility in front of the entire nation."
Another mused that Mueller's performance was so bad that Democrats might start blaming his "incompetence" for his failure to prove collusion between Trump and Russia.
Yet, despite his sluggishness, Mueller was, however, able to debunk a few persisting conspiracy theories. He told Democrats point blank that the Trump administration did not curtail his investigation in any way - and confirmed that his team found no evidence that Russia was in possession of compromising information (or "kompromat") on Trump. "Another plank of the conspiracy theory destroyed," tweeted reporter Aaron Mate.
When desperate Democrats attempted to tee Mueller up to pin Trump for obstruction of justice or to push the former special counsel into hinting at support for impeachment, Mueller refused to be led, preferring not to veer very far from his previous public comments.
The media's talking heads chimed in too, with Fox News' Chris Wallace saying the first of two hearings had been a "disaster for Democrats." A similar assessment was found on anti-Trump MSNBC, with Chuck Todd commenting that "on optics, this was a disaster."
The White House itself quickly came out with a statement calling the hearing an "epic embarrassment" for Democrats.
An Op-Ed from RT provides more details:
Mueller's testimony was a major anti-climax. Will Democrats finally realize he won't save them?
Democrats expected Russiagate fireworks from former special counsel Robert Mueller's long-awaited testimony on Capitol Hill, but were once again disappointed, witnessing only the last fizzles of a dying conspiracy theory.
Many in the media had massively hyped Mueller's appearance, believing that his confident and clear testimony would make for must-watch television. Yet, when the messiah finally appeared, he struggled to answer questions, constantly asked committee members to repeat themselves - and bumbled through the answers he did give (which were not particularly interesting and shed little new light on the Russiagate debacle).
Watching the hearing was like watching paint dry - on a wall you've painted one-hundred times before. Democrats must finally be realizing that Mueller will never reveal himself to be the Trump-slaying superman they'd hoped for
Better things to do?
"It's outside my purview," "I can't get into it," "I refer again to the report." Those were Robert Mueller's go-to answers throughout Wednesday's hearing, during which it was absolutely clear that he had no interest in being there.
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Of course, his reluctance was no surprise; the investigator had previously admitted he did not want to testify and believed that his 450-page report should have been regarded as his only testimony.
'No collusion' deja-vu
In his opening statement, Mueller confirmed (yet again) that his "extensive investigation" completed over two years "did not establish" that members of the 2016 Trump campaign conspired with Russia to steal the presidential election. "I do not intend to summarize or describe the results of our work in a different way in the course of my testimony today," he said.
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Not charged, but not exonerated?
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The issue of Trump's claimed exoneration became one of the more interesting moments of an otherwise dull hearing, when Texas Republican John Ratcliffe asked Mueller if the US Department of Justice had any policy that allows him to say that a person who is not charged is also "not exonerated."
When asked if he could think of an example, besides Trump, where "an investigated person was not exonerated because their innocence was not conclusively determined," Mueller could not think of any, saying this was a "unique situation."
Forgetful Mueller
It wasn't simply that Mueller was seemingly disinterested in the whole charade; the stranger discovery of the day was that on many occasions during questioning, he appeared to have trouble recalling some basic facts from his report. Granted, the entire report is hundreds of pages long - no one could be expected to recall it all in crystal-clear detail - but Mueller's grasp of certain elements left a lot to be desired.
On one occasion, he was unable to recall who'd provided one of the most reported-on and dramatic quotes in its pages (Trump's alleged response to Mueller's own appointment: "This is the end of my presidency. I'm f*cked.")
It wasn't just report-specific facts that Mueller failed to recall, either; he couldn't even remember, when asked, which president had first appointed him to the position of US attorney general. It's only a matter of time before Trump starts calling him 'Sleepy Robert' on Twitter.
Collusion or conspiracy?
So shaky was he on some of the details, committee members inadvertently caught Mueller contradicting pieces of the report in his spoken testimony. Asked by Georgia Republican Doug Collins if "collusion and conspiracy" are "synonymous terms," in the "colloquial context," Mueller said no.
Yet, in his report - as Collins swiftly pointed out - he stated that "even as defined in legal dictionaries, collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy."
Rebuffing Democrats' efforts
It was back to the question of obstruction of justice when Democrat Hakeem Jeffries of New York began questioning Mueller, pressuring him to agree that Trump had committed obstruction. On Twitter, many excitedly claimed that Jeffries was masterfully "establishing" that the "three elements" of an obstruction of justice charge were present - but he failed spectacularly when Mueller ultimately responded: "I'm not supportive of that analytical charge."
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Trump
takes the well-earned opportunity to slam the Democrats:
US President Donald Trump slammed former special counsel Robert Mueller's long-awaited House testimony, reserving his harshest words for the Democrats who "knew it was a hoax" - and the media who enabled them.
"Robert Mueller did a poor job, but in all fairness to him, he had nothing to work with," Trump told reporters on the White House lawn on Wednesday following the disastrous hearing. "The performance was obviously not very good, he had a lot of problems. But what he showed more than anything else is that this whole thing has been three years of embarrassment and waste of time for our country."
"Everybody knew it was a hoax, especially the Democrats," the president continued, savaging the probe that "destroyed people's lives" over "a total witch hunt" and predicting electoral catastrophe for the party. "I think they've hurt themselves very badly for 2020."
"The Democrats had nothing, and now they have less than nothing."
"But I know them too well - they'll never give up. They'll go back into the room and they'll try and figure something out," Trump predicted. "This whole thing has been collusion - with the media, with other countries... This has been a disaster for the Democrats."
Democrats have shot themselves in the foot
according to reporter Aaron Mate, but he thinks the Russiagate hysteria is far from over:
President Donald Trump's Democratic opponents have shot themselves in the foot by forcing Robert Mueller to testify publicly, not realizing he already done his best to make the probe look credible, journalist Aaron Maté told RT.
The testimony by former special counsel Robert Mueller only further highlighted the flimsiness of the Trump-Russia collusion narrative, which after more than two years of investigation ultimately turned up no evidence of conspiracy.
"Democrats made a very big mistake in calling this hearing today," Maté said. "They didn't realize the investigation was baseless and that Mueller and his team actually did their best to make this investigation look credible."
"This hearing has been disastrous for the Democrats because Robert Mueller for over two years has been portrayed as a their savior figure."
The journalist noted Mueller's refusal and even seeming inability to answer basic questions about his own probe, including about the notorious research firm Fusion GPS, which helped to kick off the FBI's initial Trump-Russia investigation with the infamous "Steele dossier."
"It was a telling moment when Robert Mueller didn't want to answer the question about Fusion GPS," Maté said, pointing out how the former special counsel repeatedly stated certain subjects "weren't in his purview."
But the "disastrous" hearing, during which Mueller refused to "go along" with obvious efforts to blame Trump for anything potentially impeachable, is unlikely to "stop the Democrats from continuing with this Russiagate business," Mate noted. The question is whether Trump will now be "challenged on his actual policies, not on a now totally debunked conspiracy theory."
Noting what a baseless distraction the whole investigation has been, Ron Paul instead
draws our attention to "FBIgate":
The Democrats' dream of impeaching President Trump over the Russiagate scandal has "totally failed," its fate confirmed by special counsel Robert Mueller's disastrous showing in Congress, former congressman Ron Paul told RT.
The utterly anticlimactic hearing saw the ex-special counsel serving up reheated details of his two-year probe into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, reminding both the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees that there was no proof that members of the Trump campaign conspired with Russia. "Hopefully, this will end it all, because Mueller did not have any evidence," Paul said.
"I think we should never use the word Russiagate again. I think we ought to use the FBIgate because there was a conspiracy to try to frame Trump."
"If they have impeachment hearings next year, it is going to backfire on them, just as I think this hearing today backfired on the Democrats," Paul said, suggesting that lawmakers should instead investigate the origins of the Russia probe - in particular the Steele dossier, which was partially funded by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic Party. The document, produced by Fusion GPS, was full of unsubstantiated tales about Trump and helped to kick off the FBI probe, yet when pressed on the key role of the opposition research firm, Mueller didn't even appear to be familiar with the organization.
Both parties have much bigger problems, Paul pointed out, marveling at how Democrats and Republicans are "bosom buddies," marching in lockstep on "more debt, more interference, more involvement overseas, more welfare-ism," yet "they hate each other's guts when it comes to power."
"The empire's broke, the empire's in trouble, yet [both parties] don't want to talk about that."
Comment: Republicans hammered away at the perceived legal deviations in Mueller Report: Mueller threw a bone to the Democrats, complaining that Trump wanted to fire him, though he never did: Trump, in the meantime, continued to slam the Mueller investigation and called for investigating them: Mueller looked tired and even confused during his testimony, leaving some on social media speculating that he did not actually write the report. It was also noted that his answers were far more sharp and clear when answering questions posed by Democrats, as opposed to Republican committee members. His standard answer to many questions was "I direct you to the report.", when wanting to avoid the question.
UPDATES: Thursday 25th July @ 15:32
RT reports how Mueller's sluggish testimony that was supposed to bring new light to the apparent Russiagate drama quickly became a "disaster" for the Democrats: An Op-Ed from RT provides more details: Trump takes the well-earned opportunity to slam the Democrats: Democrats have shot themselves in the foot according to reporter Aaron Mate, but he thinks the Russiagate hysteria is far from over: Noting what a baseless distraction the whole investigation has been, Ron Paul instead draws our attention to "FBIgate":