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The Truth Perspective: Diving Into the Collective Unconscious: Where Jung Went Wrong

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Sat, 23 Jun 2018 16:00 UTC

Jung thought humanity shared a collective unconscious which provided the forms of myths, dreams, and fantasies. Most modern scientists reject the idea completely. But maybe they're both wrong. Jung may have gotten most of the details wrong, but there may be a kernel of truth in the idea, and while modern critics are correct to point out the holes in Jung's theory, they also throw the baby out with the bathwater in their rejection of a shared unconscious.

In addition to taking a closer look at the idea of a collective unconscious, today on the Truth Perspective we will take a brief look at Jung's method of therapy and some of its flaws. In the words of Dr. K. Dabrowski, many of Jung's notions were vague, impractical, and lacked an awareness of the multilevelness of emotional and instinctive functions.

Tune today at 12 pm EDT as we once again dive into the underworld of Jungian thought.

Running Time: 01:44:07

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Sources cited

Kazimierz Dabrowski, Psychoneurosis Is Not An Illness
Kazimierz Dabrowski, Multilevelness of Emotional and Instinctive Processes
David Ray Griffin, Process Theology
Ed Hird, "Carl Jung and the Gnostic Reconciliation of Gender Opposites"
Lisa Marchiano, "Outbreak: On Transgender Teens and Psychic Epidemics"
Richard Noll, The Aryan Christ
Jordan B. Peterson, Maps of Meaning

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DelamerDuverus · 2018-06-23T22:53:07Z

According to the understandings of Delamer Duverus, we are all, every one of us, part of the Speciel Mind of humanity. We are actually the 4th Generation. We each have separate souls or egos, but we all share in the Speciel Mind. Our Destination in Time is to serve that Speciel Mind by strengthening it so we can evolve. JeSus Christ gave us the Perfect Pattern, and the bottom line is that to evolve we must no longer be a threat to anyone or anything. We will not be allowed outside of our Penal Colony because we cannot be trusted to live in peace. Would you want an infection, a virus to get inside your body to destroy it. That's exactly where He says we are.

Haven't had a chance to listen yet, and do not know if this corresponds to what Jung thought of collective unconscious.

There are two other Speciel Minds on the planet besides that of humanity, and one is what DD calls the Alien Mind and what the religions call Satan, and the other is the Mind of Man, the Christ Mind to some and the one we should be calling on to gain their guidance. Their vantage point is must higher than ours for they can see Time as All One, into the hearts of men, and they know the Reason of Things.

DelamerDuverus · 2018-06-23T23:38:24Z

Need to add, our conscience is our Speciel Mind's counseling of us and, therefore, our connection to God.

When we are separated from our conscience, which we call dissimulation, you can't get to God and other minds can work through you which you may or may not be able to differentiate from your own mind. this is the reason for water fluoridation, fluoride in drugs like Prozac, Tamiflu, Chantix, and many others. Fluoride calcifies the pineal and blocks you from your conscience. This is also why they want our people on opioids, and other drugs of abuse because they can do the same.

OMG! · 2018-06-24T04:26:15Z

This show was not as great as the last show... that’s the best compliment I can give, I’m working on my agreeableness. lol

Only ever read a very short introduction to Jung and that was enough for me, written by Anthony Stevens (probably the conservative bias in me)

OMG! · 2018-06-24T04:27:39Z

Dabrowski??? You couldn’t tell if the result of a disintegration was positive or negative... until after the disintegration... Las Vegas development bring on the psychonorocies I’m feeling lucky. lol

One of Dabrowski books is still on my bedside locker, maybe I should have been in bed reading instead of listening, too late... anyway much preferred listening to you guys, though at the beginning my eyebrows were moving in various directions... my bag.

If there was a choice between Young and Dabrowski, Dabrowski would seem much better, though probably only after reading some other related materials first, although if read it might help to fend off a very negative disintegration that’s simply unhelpful to life as one didn’t know/realise it.

OMG! · 2018-06-24T04:28:39Z

Symbolism is like those blocks one might have gotten in play school... or those things one could stick together to form whatever one is inspired too put together, call it intent depending, or just putting them together until one gets inspired to go in a particular direction. And some things might have multiple meanings all at the same time... like a thread sowing up the fabric of reality that criss-cross seem to go in both directions at the same time, depending on how one looks at it... ok I’m talking BS.

Symbolism is like jigsaw... if so who made the picture and why is our world going to hell ?

OMG! · 2018-06-24T04:31:56Z

Maybe a Hyperdimensional Enforced disintegration?

Not many seeming to have a positive experience these days, is there?

And how do we know if its truly positive or negative... does one contemplate ones navel.

OMG! · 2018-06-24T04:38:46Z

Shoot is there a difference between neurosis and ‘psychoneurosis’ over spelling. lol

hkoehli · 2018-06-24T14:37:16Z

OMG! For Dabrwoski, neurosis was more body-oriented and psychoneurosis was more psychological, but people don't use the terms that way anymore, so no biggie.

As for how to know whether a disintegration was positive or negative, that would depend on results. Lots of factors to take into account - that's where it's helpful to read Dabrowski. But a really simple example: psychosis is a negative result.

Highland Fleet Lute · 2018-06-24T05:34:42Z

"our connection to God. "

I wouldn't presume. I tend to think 'God' is indicative of a language problem.

"In the beginning was The Word"

Beginning of what? Perhaps it's true to say that, at least in some sense, inaccurate shorthand is a component part of the ballast that creates 'cargo cults', demiurges', etc.

Surely a creation myth can only have any credence if it deals with the problem of 'time', and acknowledges that so-called eternity exists outside and inside of so-called time, and has neither beginning nor end.

"Fluoride calcifies the pineal and blocks you from your conscience."

Allegedly. The only sure way to find that out would be to guzzle a load of fluoride and gobble a bunch of calcium. Should be no more difficult than finding out whether or not London gin gets you drunk.

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