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A poll on Russia's handling of the Ukraine crisis by the Berlin-based N-TV went spectacularly wrong in the channel's opinion, when the majority of its audience said "yes" to the question "Do you have understanding for Putin's policy?"
The response was indeed so baffling that the poll was wiped off the N-TV home page the same day, but not before some people managed to make screenshots of it, which they posted online.
A screenshot posted on the Facebook page of Christoph Hoerstel from Potsdam shows that 89 percent answered with a resounding "yes," with the remaining 11 percent responding with a "no." Respondents could choose only those two options.
The subsequent deletion of the controversial survey raised an important question of news coverage in the German mainstream media, which has been remarkably vocal in its disapproval of Russia's stance on Ukraine.
In February, the Ukrainian parliament backed by far-right movements ousted President Viktor Yanukovych and scheduled an early presidential election for May 25.
Moscow has described the uprising in Kiev as an illegitimate fascist coup and a military seizure of power, which resulted in it taking steps to protect ethnic Russians in Ukraine, including the reunification with Crimea.
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Born in Moscow .Ive been living in Sweden since I was 7 yrs old, thats like 40 yrs now. I am a Swedish citizen and Sweden is my home. I still support what RF and Putin are doing. I do like Mexico...a lot, but for now I have no plans on moving there. The same goes for RF. I also like it in Germany, but I drive a Volvo, not an BMW. Go figure...I like Germany...I even studied there, still I drive Swedish car. Kina strange istnt it ? What does support for RF and Putin has to do with communist society ? Who says it is super wonderful in RF ? Do you seriously think that N-TV targeted Russians residing in Germany in this poll ? Among asked they might have been some but I doubt that it would amount to 89% mentioned. A lots of Russians living abroad are second generation immigrants and countries where they live are their homes, but they still consider Russia as very close to their hearts. Germany, UK, Scandinavia etc is their home..that doesn´t mean that they cant support RF..as many native Swedes do. A lots of Russians still have relatives in RF and therefore they are affected indirectly by the mess US bandits are making in Ukraine. Should ethnic Swedes and Germans also move to Russia since they support its position on the Ukraine matter ? What does Lada has to do with the conflict instigated by US bandits ? Communism has been dead for decades, so all of the people supporting Russia in this "conflict" shoul move to...Cuba, because only there will they find something resembling communism. I don´t really see the connection between communist society and US gangster started conflict in Ukraine. This poll does not surprise me at all. There is a significant support for RF and Putins policy on Ukraine in Sweden and Finland too...and there are no millions of Russians living here. People settle here, and settle there. Italians living in Sweden..or Greeks in Norway always miss their homeland but for many reasons it is not practical for them to return anymore. We have our children in our new countries, we have lives here...it does not prevent us from having an opinion on what is going on in our real home country.
is not communist anymore in the way that North Korea is. However, Russia IS socialist. It is also true, that many people in Russia want the Soviet Union back and I discussed that with Keit elsewhere. She admits it and she's from Belarus. They love that particular system. Regardless of what Putin tries to claim, he is a child of that system, he used to be KGB. So many influential people (around Putin, too) are "ex"-KGBs. You can check that, too. If he was really as democratic as he claims , why does he forbid the expression of homosexuality (check that)? Why does he forbid public smoking (check that)? Do these people have rights?? They do, but not in Russia. Why did you not discuss these facts about the Russian press? We all know that the Western media is crap, already, that shouldn't even be in the news.
Russia REJECTS western liberal democracy - that's what this is all about!
Democracy is being exposed as a scam - via this Ukraine crisis - in the same way Communism was exposed.
The globalists' democratization project is finished. The hypocrisy about what happened in Ukraine was so glaring that the empire appears to have made its fatal mistake. The genie won't go back into the bottle now. The masses in Europe anyway (and probably the US too) have seen it. They can't un-see it now!
Yes, I checked 'gay rights' in Russia. I actually read the law. 'Gay rights' aren't mentioned anywhere.
Yes, smoking is banned in some public buildings. What did you expect? Perfection? Sheesh!
It's been an interesting few months seeing Russia/Putin portrayed variously as 'Communist', 'Socialist', 'neo-Bolshevik', 'neo-Nazi', 'capitalist', 'anti-capitalist', 'authoritarian', 'neo-liberal', 'anti-Semitic', 'pro-Zionist', 'imperial', 'fascist', 'nationalist', 'conservative', and 'democratic' - and all with equal fervour!
"Russia REJECTS western liberal democracy - that's what this is all about!" I do not care what Russia or the West reject or their media. The fact remains that Western Democracy(TM) has nothing to do with old Greek democracy which means from "demos" and "kratos" rule of the people. This is inexistant in the West and we cannot thus even begin to speak about Western democracy, because it does not exist.
"Democracy is being exposed as a scam - via this Ukraine crisis - in the same way Communism was exposed." Democracy as it was intended doesn not exist. And it is good to hear from you that Communism was exposed. Many people do not even want to admit that fact. It's very painful to see!
The globalist's democratization imitation project is finished only when they die and there is no one to keep it. Banks are still there, financial institutions, corrupt politicians, too, "ownership will stay a while longer"... So no, it's not over, quite unfortunately! That the Western powers exposed themselves as global terrorists, that I can fully agree with.
"[Link] Example article, example quote: "Russia recognizes only marriage between a man and a woman.", you can find other articles, too.
[Link] Smoking. Just read the title of the article...
I am no expecting perfection. What I mean is that for such 'crackdowns' you would really bash the HELL out of the US gov. and rightfully so! I didn't see much articles on the ponerization of Russia, if any, ESPECIALLY LATELY. That's what I mean.
And no, Russophobia (fear of Russia in translation) does not exist in people's instinctive substratum. It's people disliking Russian politics because it has hurt their contry in some way, not Russia or Russians. You will find many other people in Asia disliking it because of it's imperfections that are not visible on sott's reporting.
What if, starting from the basis that the whole world is already ponerized by 'free markets', 'globalization', etc, the line of force in Russia's actions is trending towards DE-ponerization? I'm not sure that this is the case, I just wonder.
"And no, Russophobia (fear of Russia in translation) does not exist in people's instinctive substratum. It's people disliking Russian politics because it has hurt their contry in some way, not Russia or Russians. You will find many other people in Asia disliking it because of it's imperfections that are not visible on sott's reporting."
I think you'll find they dislike America's more, but maybe that's open for debate.
Point taken though. It's not 'USA, bad - Russia, good.' It's about relative evil. The bottom line remains, for now at least, as Joe Quinn pointed out here:
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"Putin and his monied supporters have far more in common with European and American billionaire businessmen (and billionaire politician businessmen) than they do with the ordinary people of any part of Ukraine (or anywhere else). And none of us 'little people' should forget it."
couldn't have said it better! "It's not 'USA, bad - Russia, good.' It's about relative evil.", you, too Niall, couldn't have said it more accurately.
Despite what the C's have said about Putin being our [humanity's?] "best guess", I do believe in the creation and maintainance of a cathar-like society and it would be nothing like Russia's and USA's societies i.e. make things "anew" - using the model of such societies of the past instead of basing my guess on ANY current day ponerized society.
putine is the man of the time, germany lol you are terrorists same as usa, you stealing oil from 3rd world countries, benefits from their workers, and about the russians in germany they are doing their job just for more money not loving the gay laws as we saw the woman who leashes a man in london streets, well, love russia, love north korea and china.
democracy is whoring! its a joke that powerful people hide behind it and idiots still believe it exists
there are MILLIONS of RUSSIANS IN GERMANY. Have seen that myself, first hand. Who do you think they would vote for? Fun fact is that these Russians there vote for Putin, pretend to have an active position, love Russia so much, yet from a distance of a few thousand kilometers... Why do they drive western cars and not find themselves a Lada mobile? Why do they not want to live in a communist society and prefer to work for money in the western countries? Why do they not want to return to their wonderful Russia if it is so much better and are well settled in Germany?? Sott editors may want to think on that one.
That the German media controllers are in essence evil, that I can admit with 2 hands. Douchebags even used to censor Youtube classical music videos for no reason, while they DO NOT own the rights of Bach's music.