All in all, an excellent example of how a well-educated person can have a fine command of (certain) facts and figures, yet be unable to see the wider picture due to ideological blinders. This guy definitely does not have the whole banana though, from his thousands of podcasts with "The Truth About..." in the titles, one suspects that he thinks he does. Allow me to explain what is going on in this video.
I have no argument with the facts and figures he cites, as he clearly knows his stuff in that regard. As he says, savings have cratered, good jobs have been replaced with low-paying service sector jobs, wealth inequality has skyrocketed, and social mobility all but disappeared. However, his libertarian ideology colours his analysis to the point of hobbling it: everything is the fault of inefficient Big Government and the evil socialists who suffuse it, with no blame to be found in the psychopathic capitalists of the private sector, and their capture of the regulatory and legislative institutions that are supposed to keep them in line.
Thus, the disappearance of manufacturing jobs in the U.S. is blamed entirely on environmental regulations and unions driving up costs, such that the jobs all disappeared to China ... something he bafflingly puts down to U.S. protectionism ... when it is clear that the real reason those jobs disappeared had more to do with the lowering of trade barriers, such that the capitalists were able to relocate their factories to China without penalty. Actual protectionism would have made this impossible simply by putting tariffs in place such that imported goods made with slave labour would have a harder time competing with locally-made goods produced by well-paid union workers under more environmentally friendly conditions. That this route was not taken was not an inevitable result written into the laws of nature, but a very deliberate policy decision made by a socioeconomic elite that wanted to bust the unions. I wonder how he accounts for the more-or-less indisputable fact that the U.S. enjoyed its most prosperous period precisely during that time in which union membership was at an historical high?
Similarly, he focuses a lot of attention on the 'cancerous' growth of social programs at the expense of the 'productive' private sector, yet somehow never mentions the vast military expenditures that account for over 1/4 of the 2013 budget. Perhaps this is only to expected for a capitalist cheerleader, as the military is an integral part of global capitalism. Similarly, he discusses 'unfunded liabilities' such as social security and pensions, a favourite hobgoblin of the libertarian right, without ever acknowledging that the reason those 'liabilities' are 'unfunded' is that the government kept dipping into the social security kitty in order to fund other programs, such as defense, or corporate and capital gains tax cuts. Speaking of tax cuts, again, funny how he doesn't mention that taxes on the rich are at historically low levels.
Libertarians often refer to themselves as 'anarcho-capitalists' (indeed he specifically refers to himself as 'anarchist' at one point), which contains a grain of truth. Like anarchists, they dislike the state, and are in favour of maximal personal freedom for all humans. Unlike anarchists, however, they don't acknowledge that humans are fundamentally social beings, and that healthy humans require healthy societies, just as healthy societies require healthy humans. I tend to think of libertarians as anarchists who have not yet developed a social conscience ... you might call it 'anarchism for psychopaths'.
Libertarianism is certainly a right-wing ideology, and they tend to vote GOP, but there are big differences between libertarians and conventional right-wingers ... there's actually a lot of common ground between libertarians and much of the left. Both sides agree that the drug war should be called off. Furthermore, libertarians tend to share the left's skepticism of fundamentalist Christianity. The defining difference is that anarchists don't limit their analysis of the negative impact of coercion to the state, but also include the tyranny of the workplace, acknowledging that capitalism is by its very nature deeply coercive ('work or starve', basically), and that contracts entered into under such conditions are less than consensual. Libertarians are typically silent on this issue, and this silence speaks volumes about the movement's underlying motivation: far from an effort at developing a genuine, comprehensive moral, political, and economic philosophy that serves the needs of all inhabitants of our pale blue dot, it is simply a paramoralistic apologia for existing social and economic relationships, aimed at preserving and extending the wealth and power of the lucky or ruthless few at the expense of the exploited many by cloaking their exploitation in the raiment of reason and natural justice.
Mr. Molyneux is almost certainly correct in his dire predictions of imminent economic collapse in North America, and in the USA especially. When this does happen, one only hopes that the explanation he favours - that it is all the fault of efforts to dull the sharp edges of capitalism, rather than the purified greed of the capitalists of Wall Street and Bay Street - will be soundly rejected by a populace that has been used and abused for decades in the name of profit. Otherwise, in the ensuing political panic, libertarians might easily step into the ideological void and introduce a political economy that will see the majority of the population reduced to serfdom.
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Boy, I would hate it if we were to become serfs.
Btw: Much of this same material (or argument) is covered more succinctly (and melodically) in Metallica's 'Whiskey In the Jar', which before that was a Thin Lizzy tune and even before that, was some sort of Irish folk ballad, I believe.
I am so glad that I am not a serf.
That would be awful.
Most, if not all, of what seems to be the best financial watchers out there... essentially on the net, and RT type channels, fail to see the larger picture. They see only within the box of their limitation... a financial box for the most part, largely framed and developed within the constructs of their environment, usually the financial marketplace and the politics that surround its field of play. They play to the fans in the bleachers, proclaiming the truth, but fail completely to see that the game is running out of time and rich or poor, they've got no where to go after the whistle blows. This box seems to be their whole world, one they know very well, but it remains a box, much like any prison that prevents them from seeing the larger perspective on life. That Plato's Cave analogy works well with them. They understand the shadows, the lies, deceptions, manipulations, and warn those around them who will listen about this rigged game of shadows on the wall, but fail to consider why the game goes on. They haven't yet asked those rather simple, but larger questions about the meaning of life. They seem to understand the meaning of money and how to use it to manipulate the masses, but fail to see anything beyond the fire and its shadow-makers.
They remain useful of course in keeping abreast of the main societal issues of economy and govt, but like most everyone else, they've stopped to rest along the path and stopped seeking, so anyone choosing to continue, will have to go on without them.
Stepping stones.
Stefan Molyneau in no way represents all libertarians . There are many like myself who would be labeled "libertarian Christians". There is even a website "libertarianchristians.com" that includes discussion revealing quite different opinions of the "libertarian agenda" and no, Stefano Molyneau is not a contributor.
Yes, the game goes on, but it cannot be infinitely sustained.
True, the US has been getting lots of stuff from abroad, to the extreme of just about everything in some cases. When the collapse comes, the world will dump the dollar, imports will become too expensive and the stark reality that we must then rely on what little we produce. Empty shelves. Long lines. The masters behind the curtain think they have it all figured out. They are mistaken, and delude only themselves.
To those who have much, much will be demanded. Especially from those 'other' countries that they have taken for a ride. And that means no safe harbors, just snares awaiting behind every twist and turn. Karma, by another name. Showing no mercy in their heyday, none shall they receive.
Smurfy, eh?
I watched part of the video before this article up to the point where he blamed the environmental regulations, etc and then had enough. Great charts and he gets the direction the US is heading right, but this article is well past spot on into with regards of his ideology and what he is missing. Thanks SOTT and the writer of the article!
The paragraph that begins : "Thus, the disappearance of manufacturing jobs in the U.S...." is thoroughly accurate. Not because I say so but because I've experienced it.
The question is not if an American worker has gone through a factory closing but how many.
I've been through two! The first was with Dresser Industries in Salisbury, MD. The first closure was to bust the union. Strangely enough, the company posted great profits the year before the closure in 2001.
By the way, the CEO of Halliburton, which bought Dresser, was Dick Cheney who was promptly awarded a $20 million golden parachute when he left to run for VP of an even bigger business venture.
Not only is the factory totally dismantled and property sold, this chapter of the Md operation isn't even mentioned on the company website.
My second closure was with Sensata Inc. in Cambridge, MD with jobs going to Matamoros,Mx and Shanghai, China. The C.O.O. who ordered these closings in several American cities is Martha Sullivan who earned $3 million per year. Sensata is also part of an investment group owned by Mitt Romney.
When the sales pitch was made for MFN for China and NAFTA for Mexico, we were promised great prosperity for all and increased freedom for the two countries. We had Tienanmen Square massacre and drug wars, and empty buildings here.
The service sector jobs promised turns to be cashiers, box handlers, and wait staff.
Strange how local, state, and federal governments don't understand why they're broke. But we know why OUR wages are stagnant and savings gone.
This argument has so annoyed me that I must go smoke like 4 cigarettes and have a coffee before responding. Which says a lot since we have a wind chill of -50. One thought before my return..
The government is corrupt..... grow the government.
Any solution that does not dissolve the big banks, imprison or execute (my preference) the banksters, abolish fiat money and outlaw fractional reserve banking is doomed to failure. Here is an idea, and not a new one. Natural resources (land including minerals, water, air) should belong to NO one. State governments should act as stewards of these resources within their jurisdictions and the federal government should be involved only when bodies of water involve multiple states (such as oceans, bays and rivers). States should use "ground rent" (as it is called in Maryland) for primary taxation and leased to users (homeowners, corporations, etc.).
States should establish banks or credit unions and currency should be backed by real wealth. If every citizen realized his wealth is being taken by a "legal tender" backed by nothing more than his own wealth and that of his fellow citizens, with the bankster parasites contributing nothing, mobs would immediately rise up and eliminate the banksters and the "accessories after the fact" in government and the mainstream media.
No discussion of this type would be complete without mention of the Babylonian Talmud. It is a "textbook for psychopaths"; and, if people were constantly reminded of its contents, its practitioners would no longer hold such sway over the world.
They key words here being INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, FREEDOM and VOLUNTARY. There are of course many offshoots of this philosophy, just one of which is laissez faire capitalist..... or Neo Con/ Cointelpro
I would first like to dispute that Stefan is Libertarian. He is not. I have never heard his show, I don't need to, I usually obtain my info from print or alternative media such as SOTT.
"Libertarians tend to vote GOP" False: Libertarians vote Libertarian, this is self evident. No self respecting Lib is going to vote GOP, those are Neo Cons.
"Everything is the fault of inefficient gov and evil socialists with no blame to be found in the psychopathic private sector and their capture of the regulatory and legislative institutions" False: This is a twisted Neo con version of Libertarian thought. We have been aware of the capture of the US gov ever since ever since. Glad you guys are finally catching on. Don't worry your next Obama or Bush will save you! It's far more than regulatory institutions that have been captured.
"Disappearance of manufacturing jobs blamed entirely on environmental laws such that all jobs disappear to China... bafflingly puts down US protectionism and tariffs" False: another distortion. The majority of Libertarian thought is in favor of international protectionism, internally within US not so much. Never even heard of a Libertarian being for NAFTA or the disillusion of glass stiegal etc. Furthermore, strict constitutionalism (if applied) protects private property rights so if someone polluted your land they are liable, whether it be public or private, nothing new here. Although there are some interesting things going on when one compares the regulation of shale oil vs. coal. Maybe someday people will catch on. Hint: regulation is commonly used as a weapon and a control mechanism.
"Not accounting for military expenditures" False: we have been bitching about the police state and military complex ever since ever since. Welcome to the party. It is Ludacris on it's face to suggest that a true libertarian would support any growth of Government expenditures or power.... especially concerning military build up.
"Government kept dipping into social security kitty" Ding ding ding!! We have a winner! This is precisely the point. The people trusted the government to keep savings money for them and they stole it and gave it away to all their friends impoverishing our elderly. How in the hell could anybody have been expecting anything different? Thanks for making the most ardent argument for Libertarianism. You can't trust the government or their friends to look out for your populations interest. You can grow the government as big as you want, it will just steal and kill more. You must do this yourself and in order to accomplish this you must have liberty. The constitution already provided for these needs it simply needs to be enforced.
"Libertarians are anarchists who have not developed social conscious" False: Your associating social conscious and government regulatory agencies makes no sense. Libertarians put their ass on the line for others simply by existing. Libertarians are the most targeted people by the powers that be, why is that? Is it because we are just like them? I don't think so. When I protested the Iraq war in DC it was Libertarians, ex hippie liberals and ex military that were ones there putting their ass on the line trying to prevent another generation from going to the hamburger factory. Not one single Libertarian I know walked away from any of those activities unscathed, and yet the liberals did. I wonder why. We fight for the scant remnants of freedom that your ideologies have left us, freedom that keeps your kids from being loaded on trains (a possibility) We do this the only way we know how and the only way that makes sense. We have always done this with both sides fighting against us.
Furthermore, I think it may do you some good to think about this compulsion issue. How is it good, respecting of free will, Godly or whatever floats your boat, to force or compel anything? Sure, you have the right to defend yourself and others but to force is another issue. You cannot force people to love, do the right thing or financially support you or others. And if you could how would the the choice of doing good or evil be made? You would simply remove choice and favor force instead, that to me more closely resembles psychopathy to me. And you shall know them by their fruit. Well something sure stinks like rotten fruit in this country and Libertarianism had nothing to do with it.
Thanks for your detailed reply. For the record, I authored the piece above.
I'm not sure why your not having heard of Mr. Molyneux means that he's not a libertarian. There are plenty of people I've never heard of who share my political leanings; I do not think my not having heard of them invalidates their politics. He identifies himself as libertarian, and his basic thrust (taxes = violence) is pretty core to the contemporary libertarian political message.
So far as Libertarians voting Libertarian: sure, some do. Far from all. There are plenty of GOP politicians who identify themselves as libertarian, and plenty of self-identified libertarians who vote GOP. I have a hard time imagining them voting Democrat in the absence of a libertarian candidate. Here in Canada, where we don't have a Libertarian Party, they vote Conservative. Always.
You're perfectly correct that *some* libertarians have been calling for an end to US military adventurism for some time. From what I've seen this is typically motivated by a lack of interest in paying for it, rather than out of moral concerns.
A lot of your arguments come down to 'no TRUE libertarian would support X ... all the ones who do are neocons pretending to be libertarians'. Which is a textbook 'no true scotsman' logical fallacy.
Your assertion that libertarians are the most targeted people by TPTB is interesting. My own understanding of history up to and including current events suggests that TPTB spend far more time targeting social justice advocates. As one obvious example, take the Tea Party vs. Occupy. While both are far too heterogeneous politically and ideologically to make blanket statements, the core leanings of the Tea Party (constitutionalism, small government, etc.) have a lot more to do with Libertarianism than those of Occupy (whose core concern was wealth inequality). One of these movements was targeted for extensive surveillance and massive police repression; the other has been tacitly encouraged to the point that it is now thriving and all but running the GOP.
I'm not going to invalidate your experience with anti-Iraq War protesting, but I will offer my own experience, at numerous protests, actions, rallies, etc., not just anti-war but regarding a great many issues. That experience is that very, very few self-identified libertarians were to be found ... the majority in attendance were anarchists, socialists, communists, environmentalists, and First Nations activists. The libertarians I've met, personally, have tended to avoid protests, and are in general supporters of Canada's ruling Conservative Party: while they quietly disagree with the social policies, they are very much in favour of low taxes, styling themselves 'fiscal conservatives'. As I never tire of pointing out to them, by prioritizing their low taxes over all other concerns (high quality health care for all, world-class scientific research, etc.), they in essence take the position that their personal profit margin outweighs all other concerns. Dress it up in fancy rhetoric about liberty and freedom all you like, this is an intensely, even sociopathically, selfish position to take.
I'm not saying that Big Government is the answer to all problems. It isn't. In many ways, we need smaller, more localized solutions. But the answer definitely is not to sell off the common wealth of our societies at pennies on the dollar to a few rich people, the 'privatization' that libertarians, again in my experience, are invariably all in favour of.
Firstly, I must apologize if It seemed I was making the case that Molyneux was not a Libertarian simply because I had never heard of him. Rather, I was expressing my skepticism that he was a Libertarian based on his alleged stance on certain issues. I don't feel that peoples labeling of themselves is always accurate, especially now days. I also am sticking to the stance that Anarchists, Neocons and Libertarians are distinct and hodgepodging them all together is simplistic and inaccurate. Although I will concede that there is a branch in the movement that is very Neocon and there is an old Anarchist click too. Sometimes we just have to agree to disagree. I also feel that labeling people phychopath based on their resistance to funding and using a medical system that would make Dr. Mengle proud, a huge stretch at best (side note: I feel as though the overuse of the term psychopath is going to invariably water down a very important issue and subject)
I have many friends in Canada and always have, I debate with them incessantly. I find them brilliant and kind people. One thing however, I feel very few of you realize, is how bad off we are down here and how atrocious our medical system is. I personally would not wish this radiating, mercury pumping, statin pushing complex on my worst enemy. See, what happens here is that our medical system kills people. Lots and lots of people.... damn near everybody eventually. And for this great privilege we pay the highest medical costs on the planet. Yet, this is not enough. They want more. You see, people are starting to opt out of the system and this is creating a problem concerning profits (and possibly other darker motivations). Some of us prefer the holistic model and those that can are leaving the country for care. I am sure you have heard of US citizens clamoring over your border in the past attempting to get more affordable perscriptions. Now it seems, the people who stole our social security money want more money...... this time things will be different.
As far as people emphasizing the monetary aspect well, I can't say I blame them. People don't have anything left to give. We are seriously suffering down here. Have you seen Detroit lately? Look at what they have already taken from us and what we have been left in return. Giving them more money will not help one bit. We are not saying no because we want people to suffer, we are saying no because we are tired of paying to make people suffer. Everything is upside down here. Every tax that has ever been levied based on a "we are gonna tax the rich" propaganda has been saddled on the middle class and poor, such as income tax for example. We know when they talk of new taxes they will be coming for us and then they will shove their loot up the arse of the war machine or the pharma complex or some other insidious beast. Hell, maybe they will use it to mow down Canada and take your resources. Hey... you guys still have guns don't you?
I cannot speak for all Libertarians, but as an individual Libertarian (at least for now), I do not believe I have the right to deny Mengel's medical care to people, however, I strongly advise against it. I will however, not be compelled to pay for it regardless of what I am labeled for doing so. I myself prefer a holistic and diet based model of health and I hand out minerals, literature natural cures constantly to anyone who is open minded enough to try something different. Labeling is dangerous business and I really feel that the term psychopath must be used more carefully.
As far as Liberals and other social movements getting the screws put to them this has certainly happened in the past with severity. I am going to have to concede this issue based on the fact that I don't want to go into detail about why I believe Libertarians to be far more persecuted in these times. But for the point you are trying to make, yes others have also been systematically targeted. Although it certainly cannot be denied that Libertarians have also. I appreciate your skepticism and boldness but simply must disagree.
I agree that it is very curious there is no mention of military spending. Another useful idiot to prime the masses.
I have been watching Steffi's videos on utube for a while, and agree with his major points: on the school system, tax farms, child abuse state workers non coercion principle, religion etc. Even though most of these of these fall into the "Captain Obvious" category. , it's refreshing that he hammers home the long term costs of these conditions and how they are eating away at society. he also has some brilliant reframes.
The thing that is annoying is that his views are really hardcore contemporary republican views sans religion. Something I have noticed
with people who have dysfunctional childhoods as he admits) is that even though there little family unit did not work, they are hell bent on repeating the same unit in hopes of rectifying the past. Sm has several characteristics that are similar to people on the right: a stealth misogynistic streak and a peculiar Hitchcockian view of sex.
He won't hesitate to put out a video that bashes women by taking a current situations like the dangers of single motherhood, or if a women commits some act (like the woman in DC who was shot with a kid in the backseat of her car) he will swing it around to attack any sort of female independence. He has also made statements that divorce is a female fault (since most are started by women) because they "don't stick it out"
True women due get away with certain things because they are seen as less of a threat, but to make a blanket statement like is simplistic. he also uses the term "virtuous women" which reeks of fundamentalism when giving dating women. Then he does some video bashing pick up artists but admits he was a "manwhore" when he was younger. Do as I say not as I do eh? And then of course there was a video where he goes into Bill Clinton getting a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky and he describes the semen falling down Lewinsky's lips and he does this with such passion you swear he is turning himself on by it.
He has also made other silly comments on how good looking people are bad because they use it to gain favor . Or recently he blames the poor (on the joe rogan podcast) because they choose to be poor by not working more. I could go and on, but it's these comments that put him in the Alex Jones category, where they some things that you just shake your head in light of the good things they say.
Maybe a bit cynical, I wouldn't be surprised if he was somehow vying for the Rush Limbaugh spot among conservatives since his recent gushing and pandering to Russell Brand and Joey Rogan..obviously he needs these people to become more commercially viable, even though he gets his funding from donations now.
But don't worry, it's only a matter of time where we all are presented the truth with his "irrefutable logic".
The Molyneuxes of this world just don't get it.
Or if they do, they conceal it under the Ayn Randian "greed is good" doctrine.
I agree with the author on all points, GOP libertarians are merely the puppets of the current crop of psychopaths who control corporate/banking America, and who in turn have control of our government.
Their goal is to give the international capitalist robber barons free reign to plunder, by eliminating any regulatory controls.
I think there are a large percentage of citizens who are coming to realize that our problem is not government per se, but that the US government has been usurped by international corporations and is no longer representing the American people.
It now is representing corporate greed.
The answer is to put in power a government that will represent the interests of Americans, not the internationalists.
I would only add that American libertarians (and Candians I guess) seem to mean an entirely different thing in their use of the word "socialism" which they equate with statism and (crony) capitalism rather then the gentler and necessary forms of collectivism it is supposed to mean in Europe. In the UK the political left uses the word capitalism where the North Americans use crony-capitalism while equating capitalism with free enterprise and the right to fail or suceed with the cavest that the former should not be done at the expense of "the people". They regard.big bank bailouts as "socialism" whereas in Europe such bailouts are regarded as "capitalism". You might well disagree with my definitions but there is a big question mark over the terminolgy which is not in my view common and muddies the waters of fruitfull discourse.
As if headlines about the end of the world, aren't bad enough, the alternative media shows it's hand again, and it an't jokers wild. These predictions about the American economy are as old as the internet. I can assure you, that should it play out. America isn't like any other country, expect riots and civil war like conditions in all major cities. The 92 riots in LA would be a drop in the bucket compared to what would happen in an evident economic collapse, there are no signs that it's imminent. Because the tension between classes is agitated by the media, and alternative media, the potential for a class war to play out on the streets would especially high in the event of Mr. Molyneux dire predictions of imminent economic collapse in North America, and in the USA especially. It's not in anyone's interest these scenarios play out on the ground. I don't believe him, he is just another prick on the radio, with nothing good to say about anything except for his products and ideology.






I agree and good analysis. And I would suggest that a deeper underlying reason for industrial movement off-shore has to do with (hidden) policies in support of the US Dollar Reserve from the standpoints of creating worldwide demand for the dollar (Reserve) and promoting debt/consumerism at home (US). In the end, the US gets a whole lot of tangible products for nothing but a promise.