Please see the Humanoid Sighting Reports Index for a list of all reports on UFOINFO together with an introduction and explanation of the Type of Close Encounter Classifications.What follows is a chronological list of events:
1.
Location: New Paris, Ohio
Date: January 3 2009
Time: 2026
The witness (possibly involved in other encounters) was about ready for bed, letting his dog "Dudley" out for an evening walk. The dog then began barking and used his tail to cover his genitals in fear as he cowered behind the witness. The witness suddenly felt what he would describe as an extreme static charge in the air that seemed to cause droplets of dew to quickly evaporate. Even the frost on the ground turned to steam and he could fee intense heat. This quickly turned his attention towards the tree line in front of him as he heard the same high pitch sound, only this time much more painful. He dropped to his knees and noticed blood dripping from his nose onto the ground. This came to a sudden stop as a warm intense blue/gray light surrounded his body and seemed to have a heavy weight on his back, pushing him to his stomach and making his face lie on the blood from his nose. He woke up shivering and nude in his bed nearly six hours later. "Dudley" seems to have been scared and barking all day. He wouldn't eat and wouldn't let the witness touch him. He found scratches on his nose and suffered from migraines all day. During the night he heard the following thoughts in his head, "its ok we are scientists, you will feel pain shortly, and think of it as a study."
HC addendum
Source: NUFORC
Type: G?
Comments: Apparent unexplored abduction event.
2.
Location: Al Qasim region, Saudi Arabia
Date: January 7 2009
Time: evening
Arabic language forums are abuzz with Saudi citizens claiming to have witnessed what is even being described by some in the normally conservative Saudi Arabian press as a possible UFO either crashing to earth or simply executing maneuvers designed to scare humans. Others are claiming the object was an asteroid or a satellite. Witnesses are reported to be waiting for an explanation from local meteorological bureau's but have received no answers yet.
On Wednesday 7th of January after evening prayers a large noise was heard in the sky followed by the sighting of an intense large light heading from the west above a region east of the capital of Riyadh. Many locals had seen meteors prior to this but claimed this one did not fit the description at all: it was a blue green color and was shooting out green lasers (flashes?). One witness, Khalid, commented, 'No one has ever seen anything like it'. Amazingly for an incident that hasn't even made the news in the West it was seen as far away as Kuwait. Locals in the region where the object appeared to be heading claim they heard an explosion and felt a large tremor indicating that the object crashed. The Saudi government has not released information regarding the crash site but is reported to have sealed the area.
HC addendum
Source: http://explayandose.zoomblog.com/archivo/2009/01/26/posible-Crash-Ovni-En-Arabia-.html
Type: H?
3.
Location: Near Chinle, Arizona
Date: January 9 2009
Time: night
Rangers from the Navajo Nation Department of Resource Enforcement reported that a Navajo elderly couple and a girl saw a UFO land near their house in a rural area northeast of town. According to the ranger, the occupants of the object went up to the residence and used what looked like flashlights to look around the house and the outhouse before leaving. An area of flattened grass was reportedly found at the site of the landing. Navajo Nation rangers have yet to interview the witnesses for additional details. No other information.
HC addendum
Source: http://mufoncms.com
Type: C
4.
Location: Rocklin, California
Date: January 10 2009
Time: 0100am
The 21-year old witness had stepped outside his backyard to smoke a cigarette and let his 65 pound pit-bull go to the bathroom. It was dark outside and there were no lights on in or outside the house. However the moon was rather full so he could somewhat see his surroundings. He was staring up at the moon which was in the westward direction and his dog was at the fence also in the west side of the yard. He was about halfway through his cigarette when he had the feeling that someone was watching him from behind. When he turned around he saw the outline of what appeared to be a person standing by the corner of his house near the fence and he/she seemed to be facing the witness. Immediately the figure started to run away from the house towards the back of the property (only about a 15 to 20 foot distance), when the witness dog heard its footsteps it ran towards it. Thinking that he was dealing with a trespasser he ran back into the house through the sliding glass door but left the door open so he could attempt to call his dog inside fearing for his safety. As soon as his dog reached the figure, it flew straight up into the air at a height of approximately 10 feet and then flew directly to the far back edge of the property and either landed on the fence or hovered directly over it for about 2 minutes. The witness could see the outline of what appeared to be wings or some type of a cloak. The witness was too scared to let go of the door in fear that the figure would come towards him. After a minute the witness realized that he could turn the outside backyard light on so he did. As he did he could barely see the figure as it went over the fence. His dog continued to paw at the fence as he called for him to come inside. After about a minute of calling the dog came inside and the witness went directly upstairs to wake his girlfriend and tell her what had occurred.
HC addendum
Source: http://mufoncms.com
Type: E
Comments: First flying creature report of the year
5.
Location: Clevedon, Somerset, England
Date: January 23 2009
Time: before midnight
A UFO has crashed at a local primary school---giving the clearest sign yet that aliens do exist. The object, described by witnesses as an alien spacecraft, crashed on the playing fields at Yeo Moor Junior School shortly before midnight on Wednesday. It then took off again, but as well as leaving a trail of debris behind, footprints were also found. Police are not confirming what it is but a crime scene investigator exclusively told the newspapers "he had never seen anything like it before" and that in his opinion it appeared to be alien. Mrs. Symes of Baytree Road said she was walking her dog about 2300 on Wednesday when she heard "an amazing noise". She said "Initially I thought it was an aircraft having trouble, and then I spotted this strange-looking rocket type machine falling to the ground." It crashed at the school and there was a huge explosion. Her dog was going berserk and she suddenly felt very frightened so she ran home and immediately called the police. "When I was on the phone I heard engines start again and saw the rocket take off and disappear within seconds". The police cordoned off the school field.
HC addendum
Source: www.thisissomerset.co.uk
Type: H
Comments: Could have been a helicopter???
(Reputed Hoax - Albert S Rosales 14/04/2009 12:42)
6.
Location: Sao Sepe, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Date: January 28 2009
Time: night
According to police, 20-year old Kelly Martins Becker claims to have been attacked during the night by an "animal" that looked like a big dog that was standing on its back feet and walked as if it were a man. According to the complaint the creature scratched the face and arms of the victim. The policed informed that Kelly underwent medical examination, where the wounds were confirmed.
HC addendum
Source: http://forgetomori.com/2009/skeptcicism/a-brazilian-werewolf-is-back/
Type: E
7.
Location: Eastern Georgia (USA), exact location not given
Date: January 28 2009
Time: 2200
The main witness was driving with his girlfriend and was just about to pull on her road when he saw in the trees something that almost looked like a bird. It was 2.1 meters long, and about as thick as a good sized tree trunk. It was maybe 20 feet off the ground and moving away from a tree, it looked brown and almost feathery. The witness had lived in these parts his whole life and has seen every type of known bird that lived in the area, but was convinced that what he was looking at was not a bird. It was huge, far too big to be a bird. He thought out loud to himself when he saw it and his girlfriend asked him what had he seen, he blinked and said nothing and there was no sign of the creature, just the calm swaying of the tree branches. After he dropped his girlfriend off he had to drive by the area again so he figured he'd see if he could spot anything. He only found a good size pile of branches on the ground right under where he had seen the creature.
HC addendum
Source: http://forums.about.com
Type: E
8.
Location: Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada
Date: February 2 2009
Time: 0400am
The witness was camping in the Abbotsford outskirts area very late one night, and was having issues sleeping because of his back. He was sitting outside by the campfire when all of the sudden he felt an odd rumbling sensation in his abdomen. Compelled by the strange feeling, he picked his flashlight and looked around the area. He found nothing and decided to go and sit down again. He sat there for the next 20minuntes with a growing feeling of uncertainty and discomfort washing over him. The air around him grew very warm; a high pitched sound reached his ears. Unsure of what was happening he stood up. A bright light with a red tint surrounded him. He felt himself loosing consciousness and he fell to the ground. He drifted in and out of consciousness each time he awoke he remembered seeing a bright light and blurry silhouettes all around him. The most apparent thing to him was that the figures were short, no taller than a meter or so, and the table he was lying on was very close to the ground. He remembered that occasionally the abductors would speak to each other, always in a high-pitched language. Many hours later he woke up, he was outside. He stood up and felt dizzy. Stumbling, he looked around the small clearing he was in. He finally found his tent, after walking around for nearly 15 minutes. He wasn't exactly sure of what happened. He packed his tent and other camping gear as fast as he could. He drove back to his house and went to bed. His dreams were disturbed with strange dreams of symbols he'd never seen before, as well as that same strange high-pitched noise he had heard the previous night. Since then he had a psychological evaluation done, and it came out completely normal.
HC addendum
Source: NUFORC
Type: G?
9.
Location: Gentleshaw Common, Cannock Chase, England
Date: February 8 2009
Time: 1100am
Five locals witnessed a figure traveling, seemingly unaided over houses on Sunday morning. One described it as looking like "Superman". Three witnesses Clive Wright 68 his wife Janet, 68 and their 14-year old grandson Nicholas were watching quite a number of seagulls and noticed what they thought was one in the middle moving quite slowly. Clive got up to take a closer look and realized it was a flying man. He searched the sky for the plane he had bailed out of, but could see nothing. All he could see was the man traveling in a controlled, straight line, traveling from Ryecroft shops to Gentleshaw Common. He ran upstairs to get his binoculars but when he returned the flying man was gone.
HC addendum
Source: Paranormal Florida Forums
Type: E
10
Location: Exact location not provided
Date: February 9 2009
Time: afternoon
The main witness was at a Wal-Mart shopping with her daughter and niece and as she walked down an isle en route to the restroom, where her niece was running ahead of them, she saw a younger aged "woman" about 10 years old or so. There was absolutely nothing unusual at first; blondish-brown hair up into a pony tail, t-shirt, sweat pants to the knees, and tennis shoes. She appeared to be biting her nails, for her hand was next to her mouth. As the witness got closer she noticed something about the woman's walk - her strides seemed to be longer or something. She was about 5'9" in height, but it just seemed different. As they got closer what appeared to have been nail biting turned into an aggressive biting of her fingers. She did not display this kind of aggression when the witness niece passed her, but she turned and looked at her as she ran by. Her eyes were totally black, and she was staring the witness down as to intimidate her. It was like nothing she had ever experienced. A thought came to the witness head, "I am not afraid of you. I know what you are." The witness daughter said that she was staring the strange woman down, like she was doing to her. The witness walked by, ignored her and confidently kept going. The witness daughter stopped to fix her shoelaces and said that the woman got behind them and turned to look at them, and her head turned in a fast motion and what looked like almost completely around. It frightened her daughter. The witness felt something evil in nature and felt negative energy and something unusual.
HC addendum
Source: Your True Tales---March 2009
Type: E?
11
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Date: February 16 2009
Time: 1000am
Early that morning the 25-year old witness had been watching television and around 0800am he was woken up by his roommate entering the kitchen as he prepared to go to college, the witness then went back to sleep. Later he was again woken up by a noise in the kitchen, cupboard slamming, drawers slamming shut, the fridge being fumbled through, he assumed it was his roommate again and turned his head ready to curse him out; he turned from his side to lie on his back and at his feet stood a 7feet tall entity. It bent right over and placed its hand besides the witness head on the sofa and looked right at his face, an inch from his head. The witness couldn't move properly, he was not afraid but could not scream or shout either. The entity seemed to ask in a terminology not used in the local dialect, "Hello are you alright?" The witness turned his head away from the creature and just like that was able to get up. At this time he saw another similar creature, and both were emitting a strange growling sound apparently communicating with each other. The witness apparently did not see how the creatures departed or disappeared. He could only describe them as humanoid in shape and dark green in color.
HC addendum
Source: http://www.uforc.com
Type: E
12.
Location: Near Varkaus, Pohjois-Savo District, Finland
Date: end of February 2009
Time: night
A 53-year retired woman (involved in other encounters) had been sleeping at night when she was awoken by a strange crackling sound coming from the wooden walls of the house. Now awake the woman spotted a small 1 meter tall blue-gray humanoid, which was moving slowly around the bed, it then leaped on the bed and walked across it next to witness head. She saw the humanoid's legs close up and describe them as very thin. She also felt an unpleasant, electrical, sensation between her shoulders. Before walking across the bed and disappearing the humanoid was seen ruffling through some items and papers on top of a table in the witness bedroom.
HC addendum
Source: Usko Ahonen, Finland
Type: E
13.
Location: Near La Junta, Guerrero, Chihuahua, Mexico
Date: March 2 2009
Time: 2130
A young woman, "Yvonne" was returning home after dropping off a friend near the new Guerrero highway and was driving on a side road that took her by the local "Panteon" (an old local Pantheon like structure). As she drove by the front of the Panteon she noticed a tall hulking figure standing by the entrance wearing what appeared to be a black cape or blanket. Terrified she drove away at high speed, thinking she was looking at "death" itself. The witness said that the top of the figure's head almost touched the top of the entrance to the Panteon which is almost 4 meters in height. Another witness in the village of El Rosario after hearing strange screeching noises coming from the vegetable garden went to investigate and saw a tall dark humanoid figure with glowing red eyes that appeared to have tangled itself with the frost protection screen. The witness ran from the area and when he returned later the strange creature was already gone.
HC addendum
Source: http://www.oem.com/mx/elheraldodechichuahua/notas
Type: E
14.
Location: La Junta, Guerrero, Chihuahua, Mexico
Date: March 6 2009
Time: night
A student at the local Universidad Regional del Norte was driving home, when he noticed a strange hunched over figure that appeared to be covered with a blanket, standing on the side of the road. As he drove by the figure suddenly straightened itself up, taking a tremendous jump forward and spreading a huge pair of wings. The terrified witness accelerated as fast as he could from the area, but the bizarre winged figure followed his vehicle, flying parallel to the car on the passenger side. The winged humanoid followed the witness for about 15 minutes, until it disappeared from sight. The student furthered described the creature as having glowing red eyes, about 2 meters in height and with a pair of huge wings; it had a pair of "small kangaroo type arms" on the front which hung down in front of its body. As it flew alongside the witness vehicle it kept hitting the window on the passenger side. According to the student the face of the flying humanoid appeared to be covered in a "veil" behind which he could see the eyes and a very high protruding forehead. Around the same time a family driving along the same stretch of road reported seeing a similar flying figure. And possibly related, at three local ranches dead and mutilated lambs have been found.
HC addendum
Source: Ana Luisa Cid http://analuisacid.com quoting Francisco Prieto Torres
Type: E
15.
Location: Saenz, Guerrero, Chihuahua, Mexico
Date: March 7 2009
Time: 2200
An elderly checking around his property, observed standing at a certain distance the silhouette of a very tall thin "man" with luminous eyes, wearing what appeared to be a black cape. The figure standing just outside the fence of the witness's property, the witness suddenly yelled at the strange figure and this one bounded backwards into the field and ran at very high speed into the nearby hills, quickly disappearing from site. Around the same time 2 sisters, Angela Mendez Rascon, 20, and Viviana Ledezma Rascon, 30, had gone to investigate strange screeching noises coming their apple grove in the nearby community of Miñaca. Once there they spotted a tall bulky humanoid figure moving among the trees and terrified they ran home.
HC addendum
Source: Ana Luisa Cid, http://analuisacid.com
Type: E
16.
Location: Oamaru, New Zealand
Date: March 11 2009
Time: midnight?
The witnesses were walking down a street when they saw a "car" roll off the cliff at the lookout point. It stayed in mid-air for 30 seconds and then changed shape. It now resembled a sort of "crushed car" that was on fire and the strange part was that a man exited the "car" and walked away. No other information.
HC addendum
Source: NUFORC
Type: ?
17.
Location: Near Temple, Texas
Date: March 22 2009
Time: night
The main witness and his wife were heading southbound on I-35 from Waco when his wife pointed to a strange light in the sky moving at incredible speed. It suddenly stopped on a dime over a field about a mile or so off the highway. He pulled his car over to the shoulder as they wondered what it was. Suddenly it appeared to land in the field and when it did they could make out a disk shape but due to the darkness it was hard to tell exactly. It was a cloudy night. He pulled his binoculars out of the back seat and when he focused in he saw what did indeed appear to be a saucer like object on the ground. At first he dismissed it as a feeder for livestock due to the poor visibility but soon realized this object had what appeared to be a door of some sort that opened up and a reddish orange light could be seen when it opened from what appeared to be the interior. Then suddenly 3 men walked out of the craft and the door shut. The craft then after about 3 minutes rose upward hovered for a brief time and then took off northbound at a very high rate of speed and the witness lost sight of it. He then refocused on the field to see if he could see any one or anything in the field but visibility was very poor. He did note that the men appeared to have been walking in the direction of a rest stop that was just off of the field near the highway. He wanted to make a turn and go northbound and stop at the rest stop but his wife would not let him, she was getting concerned that it could be "aliens". He never regained sight of the three figures.
HC addendum
Source: http://mufoncms.com
Type: B
18.
Location: New York (exact location not given)
Date: March 27 2009
Time: night
An entity was observed looking into the witness living room window. The window is in the back of his house. He saw the entity looking into his living window; it then ran away when the witness turned on the light and went outside. The entity moved/ran very quickly and disappeared in the darkness as it ran away from the witness. The entity was approximately 4 & half feet tall. There was no communication between the entity and the witness. There were no UFOs observed in conjunction with the entity encounter. The entity wore a dark/black one-piece suit that did not reflect any light. The duration of the event was approximately 1-2 minutes.
HC addendum
Source: http://mufoncms.com
Type: E
19.
Location: Colorado (exact location confidential)
Date: March 30 2009
Time: night
The daughter of the main witness (involved in other encounters with the same entity) came running down the stairs and told her mother that she had seen the same entity lying on her mother's bed. The entity is about 7 feet tall, generally humanoid in appearance, wearing a black sil like cloak. It has eyes a bit larger than humans, completely white with small black pupils, and has long black hair that appears to be wet. (It was seen on several occasions in the summer of 08).
HC addendum
Source: direct from coffeeheadmom@aol.com
Type: E
Comments: Coincidentally or not the entity was seen by the witness daughter right after she emailed me and told me about the original encounters!
20.
Location: Puerto Huarmey, Peru
Date: April 2009
Time: various
A strange looking "animal" which resembles a small bear and leaps with great agility has reportedly mutilated numerous farm animals, including ducks, pigs, and even dogs, causing great alarm among the locals. The men have organized nightly "hunting parties" in order to look for the animal. According to different testimonies the bizarre creature resembles a bear but the size of a dog, perhaps 45cm in height, with a yellow chest, and large fangs protruding out of its mouth. It apparently has the ability to leap over tall hedges and animals pens. Madeleine Flores, a community leader reports that so far about 14 households have been affected, they have asked for assistance from the Agricultural Ministry.
HC addendum
Source: http://perumisterio.blogspot.com
Type: E?
21.
Location: Death Valley, California
Date: early April 2009
Time: 0030a
Four teenagers were out camping in the desert when they decided to turn in for the night. They got into the RV and got ready for sleep and turned all the lights out at about 2130. At 0030a they woke up after hearing several metallic clangs. They turned the lights on and anything metal that wasn't secured stuck to the roof of the RV for about 10-15 seconds, after that the four of them simultaneously felt a strong static shock and everything fell to the floor again. Although we were half asleep they sort of disregarded the event as some 'freak something' they turned the lights off once more and about 30 minutes later the motion detection light outside went off and one of them looked out for about a minute assuming that it was a coyote or another animal. When the light went off again he woke up his girlfriend sister. She asked him what was going on outside, and immediately after that she screamed and there was a bizarre creature at the window looking in with very long skinny hands, its neck was about an inch and a half thick which made it obvious that it wasn't human, and its skin was bluish and somewhat translucent and as for its large oval shaped head, it had no discernible features except a faintly glowing blue light. There was a gun under the bed so the male witness picked it up and shot at the creature. The creature held its hands to its head and stumbled back setting off the light detector once more. At this point they estimated its height to have been about 7 feet 5 inches with long arms that almost touched the ground and extremely thin with very long legs also. Then it just vanished. The next morning they found a huge burn mark on the left side of the top of the RV and 3 trees that were there the previous day just vanished, with no sigh of them being chopped down.
HC addendum
Source: http://mufonmembers.proboards.com
Type: E?
Comments: Very unfriendly greeting to the supposed alien
22.
Location: Boydsville, Arkansas
Date: April 10 2009
Time: night
A local farmer and his wife were driving on a gravel road near the above community when they sighted a beam of light slowly moving through the wooded area near the road. He stopped the truck and watched as an object shining the light came into view slowly moving just above the trees. He asked his wife if she was seeing what he was seeing. He described the object as over 400 foot long with large windows about 8 foot in size. The object then traveled slowly away. At the rear were large glowing blue lights. He described the color of the lights as being welding arc blue and just as bright. The object moved away to the west and was lost from sight near a large ditch. Another local resident complained about "people" looking into her windows late at night. Oddly she described the "peeping toms" as very tall and very skinny with egg-shaped heads. She stated that her border collie hid under the bed at the time of the incident.
(Animals tend to sense danger much more acutely than humans - Albert S Rosales 24/04/2009 15:43)
HC addendum
Source: http://mufoncms.com
Type: D
23.
Location: Denver, Colorado
Date: April 25 2009
Time: 0415am
The witness, who suffers chronic pain due to a degenerative joint disease, was experiencing pain and was in bed accompanied by her dog trying to sleep. At that point her eyes were closed and she was embracing her dog when she felt a strong wind in her room that moved her hair and left some papers on the floor. She stated that she is a Christian and that the papers contained prayers she'd been reading. She described the wind as strong and stated the nature reminded her of a 30-40mph wind. She reported no open windows or doors to the outside were open at the time. She described the experience as terrifying and that she heard a voice in her head she associated with having a telepathic source. She stated that the voice instructed her not to be afraid. She also reported sensing a presence that she felt was physically close to her face and that she did not want to open her eyes due to fear but not due to any physical effect. She also reported being unable to talk. Her next memory is of the wind returning and with it her impression is that she was returned to bed. She noted the time to be 530am. She and her dog did not go back to sleep afterward and remained upset for some period of time afterward.
HC addendum
Source: Ethan Rich in http://mufoncms.com & tpeay@centurytel.net
Type: G?
24.
Location: Basalt, Colorado
Date: April 26 2009
Time: 0230am
The 18-year old witness was walking back home from a friend's house when he saw a large bright light hovering low over the area which began to follow him. Afraid he ran the rest of the way home and went into through his bedroom window. Suddenly while inside a sort of "force" took control of the witness and he was unable to move. He felt communication from the "beings" and saw images of what was apparently future events in his life (no details yet). He was able to see several entities which he vaguely described as 4 feet tall, with very skinny "reversed chicken legs"; he did not describe the facial features. Apparently the entities told him that he was "a good person" and let him go. The experience lasted about 15 minutes. During the encounter, his parents were in their room and heard a strange sound resembling a "tornado" outside the house. They did not investigate.
HC addendum
Source: UFOs Northwest
Type: G?
25.
Location: Thompson, Connecticut
Date: April 28 2009
Time: 2115
The witness (involved in a previous incident in 2007) heard some noises outside the back of the house, so she told her brother to shut off all the lights. Looking out she saw a glowing person run very fast through the yard. Her boyfriend reported seeing a similar figure standing in the woods by the dog's house a few weeks ago, another glowing figure was seeing coming out of the woods around the same time about 7-8 houses down from the witness.
HC addendum
Source: mjessypiex@aim.com
Type: E
26.
Location: Ft Myers, Florida
Date: April-May 2009
Time: various
A young boy watched two aliens from his bedroom window, a gray and a reptilian. His parents found it difficult to believe him but he was very sincere. He saw them several times through the month of April and May. His father was nervous about it and kept the door locked. However around 1am on the 16 of May he checked the back door and it was not locked, it opened when he checked it. In the morning he found a strange footprint outside the back door. Whatever it was he must have startled it, since dirt seems to have flown up as it moved quickly to its left. The witness took photos of the print and a plaster of Paris. It appears to have 3 "chicken" like claws in front and one in the back, but also a foot shape behind the claw with a heel. The witnesses have also heard the creature jump on their roof at least three times.
HC addendum
Source: http://www.skyscan.org/NewStgs4.htm
Type: E
27.
Location: Lake District, England
Date: May 4 2009
Time: 0130a
After a long day the witness had eventually settled down for the night in his tent at around 2300hrs. He was woken up by a deep humming sound, not loud but really deep so much that it seemed to vibrate through him, the inside of his tent was also lit up by a dim glow. What is most puzzling and very disturbing is that from about that time the witness remembers nothing until dawn on Wednesday morning when he woke up outside his tent stark naked and very cold. His tent and all his clothes had a very strong 'ozone' type smell. He only has a vague recollection of being laid face down on something hard and something being pushed into his rectum which was now very sore.
HC addendum
Source: http://iwasabducted.com/forum
Type: G?
Comments: Unexplored abduction event?
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